1/87 School Bus (1950s) Updated

I know all about the lack of a quality school bus for HO scale if you model in the 1950s. In fact I’ve been searching for anything decent for about 25 years now.

Recently I came across some info (online) about a Johnny Lightning 1956 school bus.

Some sites say it is 1/87, while others say it is 1/64. I tend to believe it is more 1/64. I’d guess we would have seen it on someone’s layout or heard about it before now if it really was close to HO scale.

So anyone know if this is HO suitable?

Over the years I’ve purged our layout of any vehicle that was not HO scale thanks to the many new offerings by Classic Metal Works, Busch, Woodland Scenics, etc…So if this bus is not close it would really stick out on our layout.

As far as I know the Johnny Lightning school bus is like the Matchbox trucks. Matchboxes trucks though tagged as 1/64 are very close to 1/87.

How wide is it?

Probably the best way is to measure the wheels, width, etc. Rims were most likely 20" as std. Width would be 8 feet or less. Vehicles were restricted to less than 96" wide until 1990s as best I recall. It looks proportional from the photo.

Hmm, interesting info so far.

If I can find one, I might just buy it and see how it looks.

Would love to see one in person though. Maybe I can find one at the train show this weekend (Anaheim, CA).

There are multiple versions of this bus by the way. I’ve seen (online) them painted for the military, Simpsons, Monopoly, Partridge Family, and flames.

It is a slot car HO scale which is 1:64, visibily larger than a NMRA HO which is 1:87.

Glad you said something about that. I have the Partridge Family version. Here it is between a 1/87 scale truck and a 1/87 scale van.

Thanks for the photo.

So yeah a little big [:(]

Definitely looks to be slot car HO scale.

It’s just as wide as the 1/87 scale truck beside it so it’s not to overly big. 24 scale feet in length. 7.5 scale feet wide and 8.5 scale feet tall.

This looks fine to me in relation to the other 1/87 vehicles, except for the racing slick tires [(-D] But then again it is the Partridge Family bus!

I’m doing a bit of surgery on the bus I have. I’ve removed the wheels and axles it came with and I’m putting in a set of wheels and axles from a junk Boley GMC truck I had laying around. So far it’s looking good.

If that does not work, the Jordan 1934 bus may work; you could assume the school system did not have funds to upgrade their bus fleet
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/360-229

or, if in a city the Jordan 1940s City Transit Bus could be painted yellow
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/360-244

Not prototype but it looks better.

Mmmm - a quick google located this web page with pictures of old school buses from various eras: http://www.schoolbusdriver.org/oldshots.html and http://www.schoolbusdriver.org/oldshots2.htm

From a quick look, it seems like a Cor-Con summer camp bus (http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/223-1044) might be a sensible place to start, with a somewhat respectable result being achieved with a repaint job, and by replacing the octagonal stop sign with a rectangular sign saying “STOP”.

If you can find one somewhere (ebay or whatever) a german Busch Mercedes bus might work with a repaint and some details/surgery : http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/189-41049

Herpa has a school bus - front and wheels might be a little too modern looking: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/326-6100, but that might be fixable with a little light cosmetic surgery.

Smile,
Stein

Actually I’d say it was a little short (height). The school bus I drive is closer to 10’ high. Mine happens to be close to 36’ long, there are a lot of shorter ones. From Jeff’s photo, I’d say go for it.

Good luck,

Richard

Found one at a pretty good price so I ordered it. When it arrives we’ll see how it looks.

Whatever happened to good old fashioned kit-bashing ? …

Mark.

I think I rode on this bus in 2005. My other hobby is F&I War re-enactment and we were in Lake George, NY for the 250th anniversary of the Battle of Lake George and the Bloody Morning Scout. We rode a blue bus to the site where the Bloody Morning Scout took place, which coincidently was also and old D&H railroad bed.

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Done a lot of kit-bashing in multiple scales over the years.

Just thought this pre-built bus had promise. I like the short body and paint job, and was hoping it would work out for HO scale.

Okay.As part of the Life Like/walthers Secenemaster*(*I think)line of accessories,there’s one called School Days that features a generic 50’s era School Bus along with the students that’s undere$10.00.

Hope it helps.

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