I’ve just been informed that this show has been cancelled. Another group has apparently will be hosting another event, called the Southeastern Garden Railroad Show, during those same dates. I have no other information at this point. Aristo-Craft’s web site (and show sites) did not have any postings or notices. If anyone can fill us in on the details, it would be appreciated. Rene
Boy Rene, that happened weeks ago. Somebody is out of the loop. [;)]
The new show is being run by David Roberts who runs the Heart of America show.
SOUTHEAST GARDEN RAILROAD SHOW
DALTON GEORGIA - Dalton Convention and Trade Center
MAY 1st and 2nd 2009
-Brian
Wow, guess I am out of the loop! I only learned of this today.
Lewis Polk, a man who knows how to run a business in good times and bad, did, both on his Web Site Forum and in the Club News Letter (AristoCraft Insider), explained that the three Train Shows that AristoCraft had been sponsoring were being run as a “for profit” operation. In view of the Economic Downturn that effects hobby spending, the Southeast and Midwest shows were being canceled for 2009. The highly successful York, PA show in the spring will continue and grow.
Just to add to Don’s comments, they will be having two East Coasts show, the one in March and a second in the end of October (25,26?) at the York Expo center. That’s two opportunities for the GR folks to not show up [;)]. How are those cardboard cut outs coming? [}:)]
-Brian
And what happen’s to the folk’s on the LEFT ( out ) COAST.
Dave
You still the your Big Train Show as far as I know.
-Brian
Anybody got David Roberts’ contact info?
Found the contact page of the Heart of America show site: http://www.hagrs.com/contacts.shtml
Thanks Rene!
‘QUOTE’
Lewis Polk, a man who knows how to run a business in good times and bad…
HA HA HA, WHAT A JOKE, I HAVEN’T LAUGHED THIS HARD IN A MONTH… PLEASE…[banghead]
[zzz]
To stand up for Lewis, I was part of the shows helping for free. A show can’t keep going in the red when it comes to over head and cost just to bring it to pass… You got to know when to say NO.
Even venders must do better than brake even to keep coming.
He already lost the money for the adds.
I guess the best way to support and ensure a train Show is successful and will continue in future years is to attend the Show if possible. I accept for many it wasn’t possible for a variety of reasons.
However, I notice the Show boxcar can be bought from a well known Illinois dealer presently which suggests that not all the boxcars were bought at the Show by visitors. A Show boxcar is easily obtainable if you can find a kind friend to get one for you when they attend the Show: I know I have one from the last MWLSTS. This is surely a way of helping the Show.
I have noticed some strains of pleasure regarding the demise of the Shows in some quarters. The Shows, in whichever Country they are held, should be the lifeblood of the Hobby and be an ideal arena for newcomers to get acquainted with what the Hobby, what is available and hopefully make new friends. Fortunately there are many, such as Marty, who give a great deal to the Hobby: then there are the takers!
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I guess the best way to support and ensure a train Show is successful and will continue in future years is to attend the Show if possible. I accept for many it wasn’t possible for a variety of reasons.
However, I notice the Show boxcar can be bought from a well known Illinois dealer presently which suggests that not all the boxcars were bought at the Show by visitors. A Show boxcar is easily obtainable if you can find a kind friend to get one for you when they attend the Show: I know I have one from the last MWLSTS. This is surely a way of helping the Show.
I have noticed some strains of pleasure regarding the demise of the Shows in some quarters. The Shows, in whichever Country they are held, should be the lifeblood of the Hobby and be an ideal arena for newcomers to get acquainted with what the Hobby, what is available and hopefully make new friends. Fortunately there are many, such as Marty, who give a great deal to the Hobby: then there are the takers!
Allen,
Just a few comments,1st i dont have any problems with Marty i respect the fact that he is so willing to share with others his trains and it is nice that aristocraft sends him stuff to help him with promoting the hobbie. i dont even have an issue with you even thou it seems that all you do is get on a lot of these forums and yak yak yak about how great aristocraft is and that there the end all be all of largescale, ‘NOT’ well heres my point. so when im on there forum and i here there owner tell everybody there that we must promote the hobbie ,tell a freind, buy a train, get people interested…and then one finds out that the only reason he is doing the shows is to make a profit, well its kindof like a slap in the face.
That was my thought as well. However, at this same show two years ago, I tried to attend with my large scale micro layout and was basically told that my layout was not large enough. That was real nice, as this would have been my first time actually having something in a show. I was actually given a good bit of attitude about the ordeal. This show was held in Perry, Georgia, at the Agri-Center there. I would love to have gone. After the show, I even found out from a friend that there was more than one micro layout there. I will not be trying to go again, unless I feel like my micro layout will be a welcome addition.
Its a hard thing, I’m sorry about the layout being rejected. I wonder by who. I also know what its like when us LS folks try to go to a mixed train show and are told we take up to much room and that the show is for “modelers”.
AS for helping with shows , we all go through stages, there was a time I would not got to any show because that meant I could not buy any trains. Now after I have more than enough and found more joy in open houses and shows and clinics. I now pay the “price”.
AC and Lewis is one of the few company owners who have (over time) regularly sat with me and heard me out on likes and dislikes.
When I make suggetions to other company owner s I get the 'we spend to much already to keep you happy" speech.
Promoting the hobby is more of an attitude, the way you do it or the means you use will vary.
How many times I have recieved e-mails bad mouthing GRYs mag. I give them my little speech, look the other way and keep on keepin’on.
No ONE or company can spoil this hobby for me. If I don’t like aproduct I will change it or buy other stuff or make it.
I have been behind the scence long enough to take the good with the bad.
Long live old door modelrailroading!!!
Marty,
Well said.
Karl
Good advice, never thought of it that way. quote…
“No ONE or company can spoil this hobby for me. If I don’t like a product I will change it or buy other stuff or make it.”
So i will not let it bother me no more and as you say Marty… i will keep on keepin on… and by the way the large scale displays at the shows have so much more interest to people than other scales.just an observation from doing a few shows. they cant get enough of the big trains…