783 8406 runs slow

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My new 783 8406 runs slow! Is this common for this engine? I have oiled and greased it. How can I improve its speed?

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That’s the way they are geared. If you want more speed than that, you will have to use more voltage, although I wouldn’t recommend much of an increase. An old type Z transformer puts out 24 volts.

Bob Nelson

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Hello Bob,

Thanks for the information. It is interesting. My 2056 Small Hudson with 2046 Magnetration is a great puller with high speed.

Frederick H. Duncan

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I recently purchased a 783 and also found it to be slow. I my case the one driver was slightly rubbing on the frame casting. check for binding in the drivers The engine also ran better after breaking in for a while-tm

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Be sure to oil & grease it well - It’s 20+ years old. It takes quite a while to get this broken in nicely, and the gearing is somewhat slower than most. Try it on a type V or Type Z and you will get a feel of how that big motor can really pull!

Rob

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All the big Hudsons are geared slower and have been since the beginning. I have a 785 grey Hudson which has the large field “Super” motor and I still can run it flat out (pulling a load) with my old ZW without falling off the tracks. I’ve been running it for 15 years and it really has broken in smooth. I can turn the wheels by hand now. Make sure you keep the siderods well oiled too, remember they are what turn 4 of the wheels.

Neil

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LIRR,

Make sure that the side rods are well oiled at the pivot points and put a drop or two on the armature shaft. The big Hudsons are geared to run at scale speeds, so they won’t run as fast as the 2046 or 2056. But they will out-pull them by quite a bit. It will easily haul more cars than any of the other postwar type steamers without any ill effects.

Jim

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I’m still saving up for a 783, so it’s interesting to hear about them. If you have a copy of the May 2000 issue of CTT, it has an article about tuning and cleaning up the 783.

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My new 783 8406 runs slow! Is this common for this engine? I have oiled and greased it. How can I improve its speed?

10

That’s the way they are geared. If you want more speed than that, you will have to use more voltage, although I wouldn’t recommend much of an increase. An old type Z transformer puts out 24 volts.

Bob Nelson

11

Hello Bob,

Thanks for the information. It is interesting. My 2056 Small Hudson with 2046 Magnetration is a great puller with high speed.

Frederick H. Duncan

12

I recently purchased a 783 and also found it to be slow. I my case the one driver was slightly rubbing on the frame casting. check for binding in the drivers The engine also ran better after breaking in for a while-tm

13

Be sure to oil & grease it well - It’s 20+ years old. It takes quite a while to get this broken in nicely, and the gearing is somewhat slower than most. Try it on a type V or Type Z and you will get a feel of how that big motor can really pull!

Rob

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All the big Hudsons are geared slower and have been since the beginning. I have a 785 grey Hudson which has the large field “Super” motor and I still can run it flat out (pulling a load) with my old ZW without falling off the tracks. I’ve been running it for 15 years and it really has broken in smooth. I can turn the wheels by hand now. Make sure you keep the siderods well oiled too, remember they are what turn 4 of the wheels.

Neil

15

LIRR,

Make sure that the side rods are well oiled at the pivot points and put a drop or two on the armature shaft. The big Hudsons are geared to run at scale speeds, so they won’t run as fast as the 2046 or 2056. But they will out-pull them by quite a bit. It will easily haul more cars than any of the other postwar type steamers without any ill effects.

Jim

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I’m still saving up for a 783, so it’s interesting to hear about them. If you have a copy of the May 2000 issue of CTT, it has an article about tuning and cleaning up the 783.