[:)][:)][?] Looking for american prototype electric engines that run on 2 rail. I would like to build a layout with live working cantenary. I may put it in as a 2nd level of an existig o gauge or place it by it self. I may add Dcc later on. Any idea’s would be appreciated. FG
Well, you have the many versions of PRR’s GG1 by BLI, Pemco, Rivarossi, etc.
You also have the Atlas AEM-7.
Then there is the Bachmann Spectrum Acela Express and EL-C/EF-4/E-33 freight motor.
If you can find one, there is also the old Walthers E60F and E60P.
Also, Bachmann (non-Spectrum) made Metroliners and E60P’s.
New Haven Terminal (aka Brandford Hobbies) makes a resin New Haven EP-5.
Other than that, you’d have to buy brass, I think.
Oh, and for a good model for US catenary, check out Model Memories.
Paul A. Cutler III
Weather Or No Go New Haven
Hi Paul I want an engine that is factory built and it can run on the overhead instead of the rails. FG
Ok,
You’ll have to forget about the cheap Bachmann ones, as they have plastic pans.
However, the Atlas AEM-7, Spectrum E-33 and Acela, and maybe the BLI GG1 all have, IIRC, internal switches that allow either 2-rail or catenary to be used.
Most of the loco models available can be changed over to working catenary with a bit of modification, perhaps including the purchase of new pans.
Hopefully, Rick Abramson (he of the New Haven’s west end layout in a recent MR) can offer more info.
Paul A. Cutler III
Weather Or No Go New Haven
Thanks again paul for that info. Is there any sites that have pictures of the atlas aem-7 and the spectrum e-33? I have pictures of my old layout that shows what I did with some of my fleischamm trains. If you would like to see them let me know. I don’t know how to post them on this forum but I can send them to you and maybe you cn post them for me if you can. I wi***here were loco’s like fleischmann’s old models from way back of the ep-5 new haven in the orange and black colors. Felix
Felix go to the Model railroad wharehouses web site. it’s annoying as heck to navigate but they make small batch runs of various steeple cab locmotives. small ones and bir baldwin Westinghouse cass B’s C’s and D’s. they are made under the Red Ball manufactering name. Theya er designed to fit on Bachman 44toner and 70 tonner running gear. By live pans or poles frome Bowser and you can set them up to run off the catenery. they are kits some are etched brass some are plastic styrene bodies. Alot of detail parts are needed as the kits though good are a bit sparce. they run about 60-70 dollars.
Rob
Hi rob How are you doing? Thanks for that info, I’ll look into it.I was hoping that I would not have to do the modification to the engine but if that’s the case I’ll have no choice. Felix
Spend a little time investigating Japanese and European prototype electric engines. If they are old enough boxcab prototypes there was a kind of generic look to early electric locos such as saw service on the GN, Virginian, etc.
Dave Nelson
Ya I was going to say I’ve seen some Austrian or Swiss electrics that are pretty close to some N&W / Virginian electrics, others too. Course GN had an electric made out of GM FT bodies !!
Spectrum E33’s: (But the NH called them EF-4’s)
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/160-82407
Atlas AEM-7:
http://www.atlasrr.com/HOLoco/hoaem7new.htm
BTW, the New Haven Terminal resin EP-5 loco is actually quite good, IMHO. He told me he can still make them, he just doesn’t have time to paint them anymore. Unpainted EP-5’s (with Athearn drive) were going for around $125-$150, IIRC.
Paul A. Cutler III
Weather Or No Go New Haven
felixg, when you say “engines that run on 2 rail,” are you talking about O scale? All that’s been mentioned so far is HO scale.
Felix , I’m good thanks.Like darth said everything that’s been mentioned is “HO.” However the Modlerailroad warehouse makes most of those kits in “O” and “S” guage as well. You may have to wait thought, they make short batches take orders then make more, so some of them may not be in stock all the time. I fyou are doing the "HO"one’s, you don’t need to modify the bachman drive units as the kits come with the frame adaptation kits, the only modifications you will need to make are to wire them for pole operation instead of truck pick-up,just a matter of moving the wires.
Rob
A couple of Japanese prototype locos that have the proper “generic” look are the ED14 class Bo+Bo (box on wheels), ED16 class 1-Bo+Bo-1 (Box on wheels with end platforms) and EF12 class 2-Co+Co-2 (larger box with bigger end platforms.) Mine were purchased as 1:80 scale kits in Japan in the '60’s, so I have no idea about their current availability. I do recall seeing a photo of someone’s N-scale layout with an EF12 painted in Pennsy colors!
More recent Japanese motors don’t look like anything that ever operated in the United States.
Incidentally, the larger scale combines with the smaller actual size of the prototype to produce a model of appropriate bulk for US prototype HO.
Chuck
When I mentioned 2 rail I did not want to use Marklin equiment. I am interested in that NH ep-5 engine. Who makes it ? Would like to get some info about its make up.
Hi FG,
Glad to hear you are interested in the NH EP-5! One of the best looking electrics out there and it belonged to my favorite railroad!
The EP-5 currently is only made by a Hobby Shop, whose owner does resin castings.
The shop is Branford Hobbies and their number is 1-203-488-9865
I would give you a website but he hasn’t gotten around to putting one back up.
There are also brass models available. Overland (OMI) made NH EP-5’s in brass. They were beautiful models but pricey.
Take care,
DTT
David or Paul3,
Guys, on that Branford EP5…which Athearn chassis is used for the body? The U-Boat “Cs” are too long and a long while back Rick Abramsom told me in an e-mail that the PA chassis was not correct.
Thanks!
thanks David Maybe I’ll give them a call tomorrow and see what they say Felix
hi,
have a look on this one:
http://www.frateschi.com.br/produtos/v8_eng.php
they pretty look like a NH type with some modifications of course.
also:
http://www.csclw.com.br/fazemos_locomotivas.htm
still from brazil.
quite amazing to have that much choice!
rgds,
nick
Maybe the Trainmaster body? I’m not sure, I don’t have one…
Brandford makes their own EP-5 frames. It’s no big deal for him as he used to make the shells from cast metal as well (and frames are nothing compared to that). My metal FL9 from him uses a cast metal frame that’s custom done to accept the Athearn 4-wheel and 6-wheel truck.
Paul A. Cutler III
Weather Or No Go New Haven