Amtrak Uses Talgo Cars on Empire Builder!

The NY Daily News has printed an interesting picture of Amtrak’s Empire Builder in their travel magazine.

http://www.print2webcorp.com/news/nydailynews/travel/20060820/p1.asp

A Talgo with a California F59PHI too. Yea, definately looks like the Builder.

That’s the Cascades. The guy who wrote this story obviously doesn’t know which train he got on. [:D]

Nice Picture, but what can you expect in a city where they ride trains in a hole in the ground?

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Good one Sam

That may be true, but there’s an awful lot of pretty sharp railroading in that hole in the ground.

You think thats bad?

I volunteer at the Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, ME. There is a local “bus” service starting up to connect some of the sourthern towns to allow easier transportation. The “bus” route is the Shore Line Explorer, using those fake trolleys. (I won’t go into how much I hate them, because of the gros historical inacuaracy inherant in them, but to get on with the reply) So the local paper decides to put in a photo. So they look in their file, and grab a file photo of a real open trolley car.

They didn’t look, and realize that the old trolley in the picture, with no front winsdhield, or sides for that matter, was not the new, fake, modern deisel bus with some arched windows and fake upper story windows that they were getting. (actually, the way the photo was cropped, it didn’t really do a good job showing an old trolley or a “bus wannabe”, but thats a separate point.)

What with the typical inaccuracies in American newspapers and on TV and other media channels lately, I am surprised that the picture accompanying this article didn’t try and depict Amtrak’s Empre Builder with a steam loco and a bunch of heavyweight cars and with men and women in starched clothes and straw hats!

Well said my friend, well said.

Am I the only one that noticed there’s an Amtrak West F59PHI leading that Cascades? I thought that train was exclusively pulled by the Amtrak Cascades F59s…

No, See the first reply.

You should see how the media and movies screw up aircraft! Movies are the worst. They routinely jump from the cabin of a DC-10 to an exterior shot of a 737. Then jump to the cockpit of a 747-400, then back to the interior of an old 737. And the think people don’t notice?

What if Starsky & Hutch’s car changed from a Ford Torino to a Chevy Impala to a Dodge Charger within 30 seconds? Same thing.

Mark

I remember as a youngster when Hollywood movies would use the Pacific Electric’s one subway tunnel as a New York City subway.

If the editors of that magazine think that’s the Builder,I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell them![:o)]

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I was just there the last 2 days and they were using a Cascades-painted F59 on one end and a Cascades-painted F40 (NOT a cabbage) on the other end. There was also a photogenic consist sitting in the yard, composed of one (count it) Talgo coach sandwiched between two correctly-oriented '59 Caddie transition cars.

I didn’t think they had any f40’s left…
I could be wrong on this one though. From what I’ve heard, the f40’s here in the East were some of the worse ones condition wise.

F40PHs are standard on Talgos, but with their innards ripped out…they are now mere cab cars, called ‘cabbages’ by us.
Last week I caught the Cascades coming into Vancouver with a cabbage on one end, and a Cascades AND one of them blue F59PHIs on the end pushing! I wonder why they need that kind of power for a flat line…

Cascades trains have routinely used F59s that are not in Cascades paint. California 59s have been transfered north and put into service prior to being repainted. P42s have also been used on occasion. The F40s are as someone else stated gutted for cab cars. Not true cabbages, they don’t have side doors. As for why two units on a train, simple. One is either dead, or dead-in-tow for a deadheading move. When a unit craps out on the Cascades they routinely tack a working unit on and leave the original one on it.