any opinions

Hi,

Haven’t posted in awhile been doing alot of reading and studying. If you don’t recall I am looking into building a rr for the kids plus myself of course. Since I know the kids will want to run the trains as opposed to prototypical operations I would like an opinon on this layout. I found it on the nmra website under the beginner section.

First yes it’s a 4x8 and yes I know some of you hate them, however there is also an extended plus that I might be able to incorparate later on.

Thanks, Tom

It is a layout. It looks buildable. If you have the necessary available 8x10 floor space (4x8 for layout, room for 2 foot wide aisles on three sides) you will need to build, operate and maintail this layout, and you are actually building a layout for the kids to enjoy, then just go for it!

When it comes to getting a layout up and running for kids, remember Napoleon’s words: “ask me for anything but time”. They grow up fast, and their interests changes quickly.

Plus whatever you learn building and running the 4x8 can be used for a bigger layout for yourself later in life, if you decide you want something else later.

This is what I built for my kids in a room that was 6 1/2 feet wide and 11 1/2 feet long when they were younger - “benchwork” (shelves made of various scrap materials) took a weekend, track plan was two parallell and independent loops side by side and we never quite got around to doing much scenery, but they got a lot of enjoyment out of watching their trains race each other around the room and stopping at station buildings made of cardboard:

Here is another one, a dogbone built with some old table legs and old tabletops from the scrap pile - track plan is a simple dogbon

My big disagreement with the layout is the two 18" radius s-curves in the main line. This design is a one-train only type design. For a second train it needs a passing siding on the lower part somehow. I think one could do much better with a 4x8 space. The advantage of this design is in the expansion.

Another thread recently talked about this layout. A few of the comments might be helpful.
http://cs.trains.com/forums/1532703/ShowPost.aspx

Many, many ways of doing a 4x8 (or 4x6 or 4x9) layouts. Personally I like the NMRA gateway chapter’s project layouts better than the layout above:

NMRA gateway (St. Louis) division project layouts: http://www.gatewaynmra.org/project.htm

Have a look e.g at the 2000 project layout:

But there are many ways of doing 4 x something layouts that will work for running trains for kids round and round and allowing a parent to do a little switching. One pretty good 4x8 design is the layout of forum poster RRtrainman - this one allows several trains to run at the same time on the outer loops while switching the industries in the center of the layout:

Grin,
Stein

My concern is the S-curve on the “interchange” side of the layout. Remember you need a straight track at least as long as your longest piece of equipment between the curves. That might be a good spot for using 1/3rd sectional curves if you’re going for sectional track, and use a larger radius than on the rest of the layout.

Thanks I did not even see the s-curves until you mentioned it.

I will go and look at the thread.

Thanks again,

Tom

I have looked at those as well and a couple of them caught my eye.

Well then I guess it’s back to the drawing board for me.

Thanks,

Tom