I was perusing through some photo’s and came across this. Time to clean up the air in the trainroom.[swg]
Soon we will need to model Natural Gas refueling stations in our yards.
Here is the website I stole the photo’s from,
http://www.canadianrailwayobservations.com/croarchives/oct2012cn.htm
I have that picture and have been working on using a 50 foot modern tank car as a starting point to do this. conversion
Looks like they forgot to paint over the solder on the end of the points[:D]
So there is a prototype for everything![(-D]
Caldreamer, what brand of car are you using? Also, how long do you think the car in the photo is and I wonder if it is an existing modified car or did they start from scratch when designing it for this application?
I was looking at the Athearn 50 foot 33000 Gallon LNG tank car. Also the BNSF LNG tank car that wa heavily reinforced is anothe possible rebuild.
Now all you have to do is figure out how to model the BLEVE the first time it derails [(-D].
Thanks. I’ll still keep on burning coal, diesel #2 and hydroelectric kilowatts.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - where expensive LNG was delivered in pressure bottles)
Same here, I am sticking with diesel, that doesn’t explode when the locomotive derails.[swg]
You guy’s just have no sense of adventure![(-D]
I have modified one of the big Bachmann 4-8-4 tenders into an auxillary fuel tender by replacing the drawbar with an MT coupler.
Photo’s! We want photo’s!..Please.[;)]
I have investigated a burning LPG 18 wheel tank vehicle. There was no explosion, just a really big fire.
Wow, and you guys up there are worried about Backken crude going through town?
I see plenty of vehicles around here with CNG, since I’m in the middle oif theHaynesville shale, but a tank car?
Hopefully this is deemed safe? Natural gas is a little different that LP…
Do you mean LNG? The difference between diesel locomotives is that the tank is between the trucks, and while they can leak in derailments, very few catch on fire unless it is a massive/serious derailment. Tank cars on the other hand usually catch on fire in derailments. Not to mention, with tank cars haulingdiesel, there is a buffer car between them and the locomotive, and there are no hoses. Now, with LNG, you are placing that tank car inbetween two locomotives that have a lot of hot parts.
A really big fire still causes a lot of damage and problems for the nearby community.
Not anything I’d be interested in modeling. Just thinking about it gives me gas.
Here is a photo of my diesle fuel tender.
Nothin’ to worry about…I’m pretty sure that’s just a corn syrup tank car with a fancy paint job.
Wayne
Brent:
Very interesting photos. I noticed that the locomotives still sported their diesel fuel tanks which made me wonder if they were dual fuel. The link you posted explains that they use both fuels - diesel from throttle notches 1 - 3 and gas for 4 - 8. I wonder what that transition sounds like?
Thanks.
Dave
Doubt it, BN also did something like this in the 80’s and 90’s. the locos(GP9, and a pair of 40-2’s) burned the nat. gas instead of diesel. because of the narrow ignitable range and generally the extra car that carried the fuel, the program was discontinued and all units were reverted.
As for modeling it, diesel is cent’s on the dollar in the 60’s.
Gary:
I didn’t make the dual fuel thing up. If you look at the link to the web site that Brent mentions the dual fuel reference is there. You have to scroll down a bit to find the reference:
" According to a CN employee Richard Marchi spoke with, they use diesel fuel when in notches 1 through 3 and Natural gas only through notches 4 through 8. "
Please keep in mind that we are 34 years past 1980. Perhaps there have been a few advances in locomotive technology since then.
Dave
The fuel is a liquid and generally will not explode when the tank is full. Now when the tank gets close to empty , well then things can get a bit dicy!