Has anyone see any pictures of Bachmann’s “Light” 2-10-2? I’ooked on the home page and no photo was available. I’m curious as to the specs on this one as there is a CN version (CN had 93 Sante Fe type engines) and I was wondering if this one had Elesco feed water heaters.
Has there been anyreviews done on this one or are they still awaiting shipment?
Fergie
I’ve heard from a reliable source that the CNR version will be paint and lettering only. You’ll have to supply your own Elesco system, top-feed check valve, ash hoppers, and all-weather cab and modify the tender to suit. By the way, of the CNR 2-10-2’s, only #4200 to #4209 were actually USRA locos, all ten bought second-hand from the Boston & Albany.
Wayne
Whoa!! A Bachman in a cast metal boiler, or are those photos just preproduction samples?
Will
it is about time bachmann did something else with their 10 wheel chassis. i am supprised that up untill now we have only seen it under the chinese QJ.
Peter
CN had four versions and the ones you refer to are the T-3-a built by Brooks in 1919. It’s too bad Bachmann didn’t do a “Canadian” version but hopefully someone will come out with a upgrade kit. Suprising that all manufacturers keep away from engines with Elesco’s. Then again we’re only starting to see a boom in diversity.
Fergie
And also how about Spectrum-quality/price loco’s with vestibule (winter ) cabs? They were not unique to Canada, as some U.S. roads operated in the Great White North of the U.S.
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Where have you been? Most of the Bachmann steam these days has metal boilers, starting with their three-truck shay. Even most of their On30 steam has metal boilers.
You might, with some minor modifications, be able to use the Athabasca Shops cab which is designed for use behind the Spectrum USRA light 4-8-2. http://www.athabascashops.com/
Look under the miscellaneous HO section.
Precision Scale also makes a vestibule cab kit. Not to mention a complete Elesco FWH detail kit.
Andre
Unfortunately, Athabasca’s website has been down for over three months now. Methinks they’ve gone belly up…
Well, if the website’s down, it’s really acting squirrelly. I have no problem navigating it.
If it were down, it wouldn’t be responding at all.
Andre
Supposedly, the PSC cab, which is the old Kemtron all-weather cab, is a very good match for the cab used on the CNR T-3-a. I am currently redoing an old Akane USRA 2-10-2 as one of the 4200’s for a good friend. The loco has been remotored with a very large Sagami can motor and heavily ballasted. It should pull as well as the real ones. There is a good article in Volume 8, Number 4 of CN LINES, the magazine of the Canadian National sig on building a T-3-a from a suitable USRA locomotive, complete with a list of suggested parts.
Wayne
How’s about posting some pictures of the work in progress?
Actually, what you’re doing sounds like a good subject for an MR article.
Andre
I recieved the following from Barb Graczykowski at Bachmann earlier today and am passing it on with her kind permission:
These locomotives (CN) are the USRA locomotives bought by Canadian
National in the 1920’s and were the only USRA engines in Canada. These
are not the Montreal 4100’s that had Vestibule Cabs and Elesco Feed
Water Heaters. These engines ran until very late without conversions
(without cabs and feed water heater modifications).
With CAL-scale parts from Bowser and Walthers and precision, old Kemtron
tooling of the vestibule cab, you can make this locomotive, or possibly
someone will come out with a parts kit for the individual upgrades. Due
to the extreme cost of tooling and a small amount of production (sales),
it becomes prohibitive for making all the different tooling for engines.
Minimum radius for the engine is 22" radius.
A limited quantity will be released in December. We should have all of
them in the marketplace by the end of January.
Bachmann Sales Dept.
Fergie
Can’t way should have them at the big show in Milwaukee the second weekend of Nov.
I think that Bachmann’s information on the CNR 4200’s may be incorrect. The locomotives came from the Boston & Albany in 1928 and according to the article in the sig magazine, there is some photographic evidence to suggest that they went through the backshop before entering service. While there, an all-weather cab with diaphram was installed which necessitated modifications to the tender. At this time, the ash chutes behind the rear drivers were also installed, along with the CN style number board between the original bell and the headlight. The number plate under the headlight was installed at a later date, along with the CNR-style pilot. This information is taken from a photo of 4207, believed to be dated 1928 or '29, although this photo is not included in the article. However, the article then goes on to state that the all-weather cabs may not have been applied until 1931 - '33, in which case they would have run in original USRA form for several years. I guess that we’re left to take our choice: as-bought or with varying degrees of modification. The Elesco systems were installed betwwen June 1934 and November 1936.
The version that I’ll be building will be the 4193 (the ex-4207 as it was renumbered in 1957), as my friend’s layout is set in 1958. As far as posting pictures, I’m still waiting for my daughter to help me post pictures of CNR wooden baggage cars on another thread. The 2-10-2 is still in the material-gathering stage. I’m hoping to get a couple of the Bachmann versions for my own layout, although they’ll remain USRA style with some modifications to suit my free-lanced Grand Valley. On the subject of photos, I do have one of another CNR loco, although it’s an 0-8-0 built from the Proto2000 USRA 0-8-0, and I’m also working on a CNR N-2-b Consolidation, starting with the excellent Bachmann 2-8-0. Elesco feedwater heater on this one too.
Back issues of the sig magazine CN LINES are available from
Dave Lisabeth,
876 Prestwick Cr.,
Sarnia, Ont.
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Wayne
Thanks for the info. I’ll have to go root up my back issues of CN SIG and hopefully I’ll have it.
Dad still recalls the 2-10-2’s barking up the “Danforth” on cold, crisp January days, unfortunately before my time. There was 93 of these engines yet I have very little info on where they ran or operated out of. most of the books I have make no mention of them. Where they mostly based in the Rockies?
Fergie
I am excited about this projected Bachmann engine, AND the tender shown with it, since B-man usually sell their tenders seperately. I am going to get at least one engine; the VGN is going to trial a 2-10-2, and a few of thos tenders.
That’s strange…every time I’ve tried to log onto the Athabasca website this summer, I’ve immediately gone to a “Snap Gear” website. I think I have to reset my cookies…
I just got off the phone with Mike at Maritime Hobbies and he was telling me Athabasca is alive and well as he talked to them a couple of weeks ago. There website must be on the fritz!
Fergie