I know Cody Grivno loves ballasting track. I even follow his method shown in MRVideoPlus. I’m very careful…meticulous even. But I have just ballasted 253,265 miles of track!! (OK, not really, it just seems like that much track.)
It is the most boring part of model railroading but it has to be done.
Do any of you (apart from Cody) actually like ballasting?
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I’ll ballast for you if you’ll do my wiring[:D]
If you weren’t so far away I’d take you up on that. I love wiring and absolutely hate ballasting.
Mel
Modeling the early to mid 1950s SP in HO scale since 1951
My Model Railroad
http://melvineperry.blogspot.com/
Bakersfield, California
I’m beginning to realize that aging is not for wimps.
I rather enjoy it. Now, in the areas where I have to be on my hands and knees and my head inside a tunnel portal can become a bit wearysome…
Ballasted track makes the biggest leap in the scenery progression. The part of the process I do dislike is the painting of the track prior to the ballast. It takes the most prep work and consumes a great deal of time.
Can you post any photos of your work?
Regards, Ed
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Bundy74
I’ll ballast for you if you’ll do my wiring
If you weren’t so far away I’d take you up on that. I love wiring and absolutely hate ballasting.
Mel
Modeling the early to mid 1950s SP in HO scale since 1951
My Model Railroad
http://melvineperry.blogspot.com/
Bakersfield, California
I guess i don’t understand the problem. So often I read of folks carrying on about ballasting, hate it;boreing, time wasting and on and on.I do 3-5 feet at atime, dump some stuff on the track,move it around with a small brush, wet it glue it.have a cold beer. I must be doing it wrong, but then I would rather spendtime on buildings and trees and stuff you actually look at and really see and appreciate
just thinking
LION gets a box of cat litter, pours it on the layout, and brush off everything that does not look like ballast. How hard can tha be.
ROAR
I’m currently ballasting the upper level of my layout, and thoroughly enjoying it.
Ballasting, along with painting rail, are probably two of the easiest tasks when building a layout, and combined, they do more to elevate a layout from toy-like to model than any other project, no matter how complicated or expensive.
Yeah, a layout with nicely ballasted track and no scenery or structures won’t impress many, but neither will a sceniced and detailed layout impress anyone if the track is unballasted and the rail has shiny sides. Just do it - do a turnout (or two) or a few feet of track - there’s no need to have a lot of time available, as you can quit at almost any time.
I’m doing most of the turnouts first, then the track which connects them. Where there’s double track, it gets done in the same session.
In thess photos, the track in the foreground was done as far as the water tower in one session, then the next 12’ or so of double track, with several turnouts, in another couple of sessions:
Another couple of sessions here, while the remainder awaits construction of ashpits and a hoist. The ballast colour and composition will gradually change, too, as work proceeds away from the viewer:
Wayne
I have totally changed my approach to ballasting and track laying. I use to hold down track with track nails and that was fine. If I wanted to pull up the track I had to start pulling out the nails. Being a guy that likes to try new ideas and products that come along, on my recent layout I went with foam and spline on open grid. Both of which I had never done before. I also used caulk instead of nails to hold down track. I recently had to pull up a four metre section of track. I pushed back the joiners at either end of the four metres and gently pried up the end of the track and the entire four metres came up as if I was undoing a zipper. There was no caulk residue on the track and those that say caulk ruins track by leaving residue all over it that needs to be cleaned off are just using way too much caulk.
I have about 330 feet of track on the layout and have built the entire layout with a mind to moving one day. I was thinking alot about Brother Lions idea of letting gravity hold the ballast down. Knowing that I could have the entire 330 feet of track pulled off the layout in a very few minutes because I used caulk was being torpedoed by the fact that I would be gluing down the ballast. It would get messy and damage things getting the glued, ballasted track up. At least past experience in doing such things has proven this.
So come to present day. On this layout I have used a paintbrush to paint on white glue down either side of the track, out to the limit of where I want the ballast to go. I spread the ballast and let gravity do its thing. So far it has been a great success. I can take my finger or small brush and fix a part that I notice isn’t up to snuff because it isn’t now sitting there as a glued clump.
I have also started to do ballast before the rest of the scenery. I can put down painters tape to determine where I want the outer edge of the ballast to be. It gives a sharp edge to the glue line with just enough random messiness.
When it comes time to destroy the
I’ll wire, you ballast! Just enjoy the wiring aspect… No mountains or minimal trees. Give me structures, signals, lights and I’m good to go! [8D]
Neal
I never was really fond of ballasting. It always came out as mess - more ballast on the floor and all over the place than on the track!
I think it was Cody who showed us the use of a flat triangle-shaped brush to spread the ballast and shape the shoulder. Shortly before ballasting time came on my layout, a local $-shop (the German equivalent of it) sold the brushes at a ridiculously low price and I bought a set. Guess what, spreading the ballst was much easier and faster! I used diluted white glue to affix the ballast, applying it straight from a squeeze bottle I had equipped with a hypodermic needle.
While I don´t say ballasting is now fun, it has lost a lot of its scare for me.
Yup, me too. I can ballast 3’ of flex in about six minutes. Gets faster the more I do.
Ballasting is OK provided that it does not become too messy. On the old SIW it took maybe 2 hours and then some nit picking to get it right. Oh and a few pases with the shop vac after drying to get the loose stuff up.
Ballasting is kind of a Zen thing. You have to be in the mood to ballast.
My train room is also my man-cave, so I like to put on a sporting event that doesn’t really demand all my attention, or some 50s music to put me into the era. Then I’ll ballast the track.
For me, the trick is to make ballasting pretty much the last thing I do to complete the scenery. First of all, that means the scenery is done when the ballast is done, which is very satisfying. Since I typically do scenery is relatively small sections, a few feet of trackage at a time, it means I’m not trying to ballast more track than I can do in a quarter, a period, a few innings of whatever sport I’m half-ignoring.
When I’m done with ballasting for the day, the project is done and I feel like I’ve really accomplished something.
Ballasting and rail painting are both kind of monotonous, but easy to do so I find it a nice break from everything else. I must be doing it wrong though because one of the things I really like about it is that it doesn’t make much of a mess. Or require a bunch of tools and supplies that get spread out everywhere.
Hi
To me ballasting is just one of the thing’s that has to be done in creating a model railway.
I see no point in doing the whole railway all at once to the exclusion of other things.
Thats just asking for a tediouse and painfull time of it.
I do like to get the other basic ground cover up to the edge of the cork before starting ballasting
Ballast is on top of every thing so to me it makes sense to do it that way and no awkward gaps to try and cover up after wards.
regards John
A few years ago, the “standard” method for ballasting involved using a spray bottle to apply “wet water” over the top of the ballast before applying glue. That makes a mess. Now, even Cody has come around to my way of thinking - apply wet water (or just isopropyl alcohol straight from the bottle) directly using a pipette, so it just goes where you want it and does not make a mess.
Now, where did I put that pipette?
Yes, I also enjoy ballasting for many of the reasons already mentioned–no tools required, can’t easily prevent the loco from running, and far easier for me than wiring. Can I also join the ‘ballasting exchanging for wiring club’?
I find that a small plastic spoon works to spread the ballast. Afterward, I even it with a cheap craft brush. The clean up is quite easy and no worries should the ballast get a slightly away from the outside ties. I too find ballasting a nice distraction from wiring. Did I mention about trading it for ballsting? Heck, I’ll even throw in doing scenery, weathering, track planning, making dinner, etc.
By craft brush do you mean foam? I use that method too and you can ballast a whole yard in no time. I use matt medium as the glue except around the turnouts which in which I use white glue, painted on in a way not to affect the switch, apply ballast, let dry and valcum and then do the rest of the ballasting.
Nice ballast, Wayne. Which product/size/color are you using?