!st off, I am NOT a racist, or a bigot. Was listening to CMT, when a black cowboy started Rapping a country song " I Play Chicken With the Train".
I sincerely don’t know which direction to start ranting and raving in. Anyone out there in railroad cyberspace care to comment?[:(!][:(!][:(!]
Yes I do his cd it’s called locomotion and it’s done by Cowboy Troy. Interesting isn’t it?//
Sarah, you know me from the Diner, so you know my views on subject. I did not listen to song in depth, but the chorus definately caught my attention. If you have listened to the song at length, can you inform us as to why the tag line is PCWT. This is all we need the youth of America listening to. Live video games. Only you can’t press restart, as we all know tie goes to the train. Willy
Yeah,
You got to watch what you let kids listen to these days. My parents grew up with Bugs Bunny and Willey Coyote playing with sledge hammers and sticks of dynamite–look how they turned out!
To say nothing of the Stooges . . . .
I wonder how many people know Simon & Garfunkel’s Mrs. Robinson was a song about marital infidelity, or what Penny Lane was a reference to?
Gabe
Mrs Robinson was about maritial infedlity? I thought is was about Jackie Robinsons Mother and Joe Demagio aka Mr Coffee
psst - what was Penny Lane a reference to ? I always thought it was just a street in …England?
I would have never known what color the cowboy was until it was mentioned. Thanks.
Maybe you need to go back and listen to those S & G songs again.
Or possibly listen to a few more of theirs;America,Richard Cory,
plus a few others,especially “Sounds of Silence”.
Not that you need to watch the movie to understand this, but for clarity sake:
Rent the movie “The Graduate.” That will explain it all.
Gabe
P.S. This is also the reason that Joltin Joe Dimaggio felt that the song’s reference to him was a personal insult.
Mook,
It is a reference to a street in England. “Working women” have been known to be found on that street . . . if you catch my reference.
Gabe
no mate, ya got it all wrong like, Penny Lane (L18) was near where John Lennon & Paul McCartney grew up, there was a church on the roundabout where Paul & John first met, it was never associated with ladies of the evening, you’re thinking of Lime Street.
RIRR80 I’m sorry I’m unable to answer your question because, I haven’t really listend to the song in depth, mabe next time it comes on I will listen to it in depth. When I first heard it I thought it was pretty good. I was actully going to buy his cd a couple of weeks back.
Gabe I know exactly what your talking about. I have something else to add on to kids listing to stuff on the radio and on tv. What I don’t understand is why would the government issue parental advisory on cds that dealt with cuss words and vulger content. When we have groups like NSYNC (that don’t have parental advisory warning on them) singing about bangin with this and that girl. They also show on most of their videos young girls dressing sluty with thongs hanging out their pants doing butt dances. Even on the Disney channel that’s suposed to be for kids they show 12 year olds french kissing the boy ot girl they had a crush on. This in most ways is subliminal messages that kids pick up and model themselves after. I should stop here before I go into another topic. lol
Not to doubt you, but give me an hour or so after I get off work and I can take the time to find where I read this. It was in an interview with Lenon that he gave this inference. My remembering of Lenon’s statement was not that “Penny Lane” was the proper name of the street, but it was slang for the above reference.
Perhaps you are right and the interview misquoted someone or something like that? In any event, I will find it and post it for the forum’s scrutiny.
Gabe
Are you sure about that song. I have as well as you must have heard storys about playing certain records backwards and you get a message from the Church of Satan nonsense; might be over analysing-might not.
On the topic with title and from what I heard from others, some folks lyrics are totally rediculous. Good example is Snoop Dog, Ole Dirty …, Eminem…total garbage and really, I can’t see how anybody can see it for any good other then it is teaching folk to be bad is to be cool-not cool at all. I hope that this song won’t be anything other then bad choice of words but who knows.
Have you ever heard of the song long black train. It is sang by josh gracin. I think it is a pretty good song I think.
Cowboy Troy, part of Big and Rich, who latest hit, “Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy”, might be the best blend of C/W, rock and rap done to date.
Gabe, I grew up on that kind of music, have just about ever album the Beatles did, most of Harrisons stuff, and of course, all the Wings albums.
And am now in the process of replacing them all with C/Ds…no one sells albums anymore, and last time I tried to buy a needle for my turntable, the kid just looked at me with the dumbest expression…
I grew up with Creedence telling me to revolt, the Who…well, being the Who, and Clapton extolling cocaine…the Eagles and their silver spoon, the list goes on and on…but funny thing is, I dont feel the least little bit in the mood to snort, shoot up, or smoke any of this, and I havent revolted to much…
TV had the Roadrunner doing his thing…and Elmer Fudd must have blown Daffeys beak off a hundred times…but I dont throw people off of cliffs, and stick shotguns in peoples faces either.
I would perfer that this song not be made some type of anthem…but I also know kids may listen to crap on the radio, but most of them are smart enough to know better.
Those that arent, well, if songs are enough to influnce them into playing chicken, then there aint all that much you can do for them anyway.
Ed
Did anyone actually listen to the song? Or just go, “Oh my, I’m gonna post my self righteous rant that people are gonna kill themselves after hearing the song and I can’t wait to post it on the forum.”
I bought the CD when it came out, and was just countin the days till someone started this thread. While it could be about standing in front of a train, I think it just stands for the stupid things we all do for fun. Weather it be drinking, partying, womanizing, gambling, avoiding the truth, or whatever our bad habits are.
Calm down people and just enjoy the music.
Adrianspeeder
OK, judging from the hits on this thread but not many replies, I assuming not many people want to jump in because of the “black” thing. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with the song. Doesn’t it disturb anyone? If it was " Jump off a Cliff", would that be better?
Gabe, Glad you got in on this, you know how I like a good Arguement. Yes I grew up on Stooges, Coyote and RR and knew that you couldn’t do those things. It just seems that todays youth has a high percentage of those that can’t differenciate between reality and fantasy. We had a case here in town of a 20 year male that played War Games on-line constantly. He went on a binge shooting at houses. The police finally found him in a cornfield in full camo and facepaint. He had his brothers shotgun, fired on police twice and was subdued will reloading. Big news in a small farming community. When arrested all he would give was name, rank and serial number. Still thought he was in games. Three years later in mental health facility he thinks he is POW. Yes this is an isolated case. But it can happen and does. There is a small fringe of society that cannot tell the difference. What disturbs me is in that isolated fringe, there is some people that will hear this and think it is cool, then some poor engineer is going to have to live with the consequences the rest of his life.
Ed- your last line of post says it all, it’s just unfortunate that some one else will have to live with it. [:(] Willy
Bill,
I really don’t think the song, or the games, or the movies are the root cause.
And I wouldn’t sweat the black thing, because what follows applies to every parent, no matter what color their skin is.
I caught a speech by another Bill, Bill Cosby, at Texas Southern University, a predominately black university here.
Went with a buddy, who got the shock of his life…
On of the major themes of Mr. Cosby’s speech was responsibility…black or white, didn’t matter…but he engaged the audience with several questions, that made a few of them quite uncomfortable.
One of his questions was quite simple…
How the heck can you blame anyone but the parents when their kids manage to live an entire alternate life right under their noses, and they are so preoccupied with themselves and their wants as to not know a thing about it?
Why is any kid under 16, walking around the streets, at 11 at night, un-supervised?
And why, as a parent, do you allow you kid to play games where killing people is the goal?
You can’t blame society, schools, or the TV, after all, it’s your TV, you can turn it off is you don’t like what’s on.
You can blame the parents for letting the TV, or the Video games, be the babysitter…
And it’s your kid, your responsibility.
So where the heck are the parents?
He went on to ask how many of the people present every actually sat down and talked with their children, explained on their level what they believed was right and wrong…
Now, this was a racially mixed audience, and an age mixed one, from young teens to grandparents…
He made all but the grandparents very uncomfortable.
They, on the other hand, were almost chocking with glee when he pointed out that if you don’t raise you kids, then no one will…
Now, all that said, I despise most rap, and my kids know this…I don’t like the lyrics, I don’t think the mus
So true, Ed, so true.
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