I was browsing the Broadway forums and found this video and wanted to share it with you. Perhaps some of you have already seen it. I am a big fan of this engine even though I don’t model Union Pacific but I will buy one.
Does your new layout plan include 60" radius curves or will this just be a shelf queen?
Sheldon
Actually I am in the process of moving my table to another room and expanding it, it will be about 9ft by 20ft, I’m hoping to incorporate at least 1 curve of 48".
But yeah, this one will most likely be a shelf queen. [:)] I’m actually considering selling a few plastic locomotives to save and buy this baby, maybe even the unpainted version after seeing how detailed it is by itself.
With sliding axles and blind drivers, and not with an articulated front pilot and drivers (ahem!!), this engine is being marketed as being capable of negotiating substantially tight curves…22" last claim I read. They may end up revising it upwards.
-Crandell
I like the way it looks in Brass my self. If I can find away to dump one problem turn, I might get one.
I expect those models to come painted.
What are they and how cheap? I must live in a different world. I can’t imagine selling something I have, likely at a loss, to buy the “next new toy”. What happens when you get tired of that?
But, I don’t have any shelf queens either, every loco has a job on the layout.
Sheldon
I’m not picking at you Sheldon, as I always enjoy reading your posts. But, who cares? I cringe when I see posts like this. It’s unbelievable how many people cry when someone doesn’t produce a certain model (usually because the selling point can’t match production cost), but it’s more unbelievable when that model is produced, and the the rest of the world who wouldn’t buy one questions the people who do. What’s it matter his choice for buying something, or perhaps consequently the choice of a manufacture to produce something non main stream?
As someone else stated (and if you watch the video you’d bite 60" radius remark) exceptionally large curves will not be required.
I think we should all be happy its available, if even just five people buy one, it made them happy.
Just because the MTH one neeeds 60" curves when you lock the unprototypical articulation…
22" I think is being way optimistic, but I really doubt it will need 60" curves to run. To LOOK good OTOH… but look how many people run Big Boys on 18" curves…
I won’t be buying one, but that isn;t the reason. I model a specific railroad and it’s NOT Union Pacific nor is it SP. So all those Big Boys and Cab FOrwards are just somethign to look at in the catalog as far as I’m concerned. Nice, but not for me.
–Randy
I don’t care what anyone buys and I hope they are having fun with whatever they chose to model, collect or whatever - but when you post your choices, opinions, intentions, etc, on a forum, you are by default soliciting opinons - from people who will agree and from people who will disagree.
The “be happy it is available” argument is a straw man - this model makes two of them on the market (BLI and MTH) - yet there is hardly a decent Pacific in HO that is not a PRR K4.
Neither of these companies is making any money on me with their silly “whatever you can do, I can do better” game. I have 120+ locos - only 9 are BLI/PCM products, none are MTH and I don’t see anything in my future from either of them.
And, I’m happy for the OP - and I’m hoping to pickup a deal or two on what he sells off to buy this thing.
Sheldon
Same here, in 40 years I have never owned a model of a Big Boy, Cab Forward, FEF, GS4, NYC Hudson, PRR K4, or a 4-12-2, nor am I ever likely to, for the same reason Randy stated.
I don’t collect and I don’t model any of those railroads.
Sheldon
One more thought - the 60" radius comment was based on appearance, not operation.
For me personally that is important. I have 36" and larger radius and I CHOOSE not to even run any 2-10-2’s, or anything with a rigid wheel base of more than 20 scale feet.
Sheldon
And the world is a safer place…
…and sooooo much more sober, too. [sigh]
-Crandell
I have some of the old LMB 4-12-2’s and all drivers are flanged and it takes a 36" radius curve with ease, drop in the blind driver and it will cut a 28" radius althouogh I mus admit it looks rather out of it element on anything smaller than a 36" radius. The LMB’s were built with enough lateral motion in the drivers that radius was not the big issue it became when the Korean Sunset and Key Samhongsa versions arrived.
As for the MTH and BLI versions, I suspect there is a lot more going on “behind” the scenes than we will ever know. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find out that they both are made at the same factory on different assembly lines.
Reminds me of the old jokes about the Ford/Mercury and Chevy/GMC…it’s not as if this something new.
As for his desire to have a new and better quality model at the expense of some older and less desireable equipment, some wish to upgrade, others don’t. Is there a problem with this, none that I can see…
Mark
Again, I don’t really care what people do, but when you advertise your personal business…
An “upgrade” is shelving or selling off your 1980’s Athearn F7’s for some Genesis versions.
Based on his previous posts, this is not the case with the OP, its more like “selling that BLI piece bought last year” - still hoping for some good deals to help him fund his 4-12-2.
Sheldon