Poll: If you used a CAD computer program to design a layout, which one was it? Perhaps CAD RAIL, or 3rd Planet… Let me know which one you used! Thanks.
I use AUTODESK 2000 BUT HAD TO DESIGN MY OWN COMPONENTS.
Same here, Autocadd 2000i, same thing with components (track, switches, etc.).
TurboCad 3.0, have to design own components
I used AutoCADLT 2002. I have a large plotter and was able to print “bedsheets” full size. Watch out, though. Have one of each major special component (turnout, crossing, etc) so you don’t start curves and transitions too suddenly.
Thanks! Where did you get AUTODESK? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean that you “had to design my own componets”?
Thanks! Where did you get Autocadd 2000, and pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean by " had to design you track/switch components?
Thanks! Where did you get TuboCad 3.0? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but do you mean by you had to design you own components?
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Originally posted by Chessie7
Thanks! Where did you get AUTODESK? Pardon my lack of computer knowledge, but what do you mean that you “had to design my own componets”?
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You need to measure turnout frog angles and lengths if not already known, then create the pattern for your CAD to use. Not a big deal, but no built-in ‘library’ of track sections etc until you build your own CAD models of them. Gives the freedom of cutting rail to exact length required for any configuration.
Having used CAD which allows virtual tracklaying to see what will fit and what won’t; and being able to try different arrangements to MAKE something fit, makes one appreciate the effort that must have gone into trackplanning in pre-computer times. Sometimes i really hate this silly machine, but wouln’t be without it!
RR Track
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QUOTE: Originally posted by gchenier
I am very proficient at AutoCAD 2000 and many times I have started designing my layout on it. I have run into the same problem though: the components. I would think that with all the people using AutoCAD for their layouts, there would be components prebuilt on the web somewhere for download.
Otherwise, my problem is, where can I find the measurements for the components? Do I just need to get one and then measure it all out?
Also, if you want to share your templates, maybe I can offer something in return…
Thanks,
Ken
Yes; if the mfg doesn’t provide the data, get the component(s) and measure and try. Print a 1:1 scale of your CAD model and lay the component on it to check your accuracy. I find that using a very thin centerline to represent the track works better than a thick line or line pair to represent the rails.
Another nice CAD feature is the ability to print 1:1 scale on several sheets. Cut the sheets to slightly less than their boundaries and tape in place on your layout in the corners of the sheets, measure with a rule to ensure any printer error is ‘fixed’ by the small separation between the edges of the sheets. Then slip a piece of carbon paper, or tracing paper from a fabric shop, between the paper and the wood through the gaps between individual sheets, and using a pointed instrument trace the pattern onto your layout.
Use AutoCAD 2004. Great if you know how to use. You need to draw every line by hand (so to speak). UPSIDE: The accuracy is outstanding. I use it to design track layouts, wiring schematics (great reference when something breaks), my control panel layout, etc. I use it to design kit-bashed and built from scratch structures. The DOWNSIDE: $3500.00
I have not used other software.
For those who use AutoCADD, and Bachman EZ Track (HO Scale). I have all track components as AutoCAD 2000 blocks.
ALSO:
Benchwork (table) designs for 4’x8’ w/ 2’x3’ wing. My current track layout w/ control panel schematics. Atlas swiches, and More.
If you ask, I will supply
Good Luck
I HIGHLY reccomend Autodesk Quick CAD 8.0
You can buy it online via Amozon for $37 and it is a very full featured CAD program that should do all you need without going to a full blown AutoCAD package.
I started (and finished REV 1) of the layout I am currently building using the Atlas right track software. That was good - but was hard to put in the “things” around the basement (furnace, wall studs, etc) that really helped in the benchwork phase.
A CAD package allows you to use “layers” that you can turn “on” and “off” so you can see only the benchwork, or the trackwork, etc. that you want to at that time (GREAT for keeping benchwork away from future turnout motors).
I was lucky in that my modeling buddy had already created the elements for #5 and #6 turnouts and gave them to me. We hand-lay our track, so these may not match commercial turnouts exactly. I have also created an element for the Walther’s turntable and roundhouse. I’m happy to share - Contact me at rwichmann@voyager.net if needed - HO scale.
Quick CAD 8 comes with a great “CAD for Dummies” type lesson book to get you going quickly if you have never used a CAD package before.
Note that you can’t get the “virtual view” of the layout like in the layout design packages, but that didn’t interest me, personally. Also QC-8 is a 2D package, so you have to figure your elevation changes manually.
-Bryan
Well I guess I am on the outside looking in. I have Autocad 2000 Autocad R14 with softdesk and 3rd Planet. Due to my NOT THINKING since I TEACH Autocad I am using 3rd plant. It was easier to do than the block design BUT I guess it was the 3d and the other effetc that made it MORE FUN to play with.
I use CADRAIL. Good package, Instructions could be better. It sure kept me honest about what I could fit into my space
There are quite a few software “packages” available. 3rd PlanIt has been mentioned. Also there is XTRackCad (Sillub Technology), WinRail, RR-TRACK For Windows (R. & S. Enterprises) and 3D RAILRAD Concept & Design (Abracadata).
If you want a great screensaver check out www.iit.bme.hu/traffic.indexe.htm or http://traffic.hu for a downloadable program called “Traffic”
I second (or third or whatever) the QuickCAD vote. I got version 6.0 quite a while ago, at Menard’s, believe it or not, and have used it exclusively ever since… Some CAD or drafting experience is nice but not necessary. What I really like is the ability to use it for something other than layout design. You can, for example, draw up a plan for a tunnel portal and print it out full size to use as a template/cutting guide (a project done last weekend).
For you guys using AutoCAD how are creating your easements? I’m a vetern AutoCAD user but for the live of me can’t figure out how to create an easement. I generally try and use the same methods surveyors use but I haven’t been to track down that info either.
DOWN with Microstation!! AutoCAD forever…