Just for curiosity’s sake,mine I mean,I’ve been looking through different railway rosters and I noticed that neither CN or CP have ever owned an articulated locomotive.Outside the Big Boy type that were all UP owned I believe,these railways could have operated Challengers,Mallets or other,but I couldn’t find any trace of such.Was it ever?Just curious,thanks.
The CPR owned six 0-6-6-0s from 1909 to 1917, used in pusher service. I think that they were rebuilt into 2-10-0s.
Here’s where I found the info: Steam locos of the CPR
Wayne
JACKTAL,
peut-être dans certaines compagnies forestières en Colombie-Britanique?
Chris
To the best of my knowledge, there were never any articulated forestry locomotives in BC.
As has already been noted, CP used a few articulates for brief period and then they were rebuilt. As far as I know, articulates were never seriously considered. CP had a solid fleet of 2-10-4s along with a handful of 2-10-2s and 2-10-0s that handled traffic through the mountains, often double or even triple headed.
Didn’t Rayonier acquire some articulated tank locomotives second-hand from the US?
Unless I am mistaken, Rayonier is a US company, with the majority of their logging operations in the Olympic Peninsula area of Washington State.
Doug
Canadian Forest Products had a 2-6-6-2 operating on Vancouver Island at Woss in 1947. Originally built for Weherhauser in Longivew, WA, it was used to good effect on the Island. It was a simple engine, not compound.
-Crandell
Hey! Simple is stronger than compound (and more likely superheated too)!
Mark
Sorry I had the wrong company. It was the Canfor locomotive that I was thinking of.
I didn’t want to chime in like a forumite, but I too remember an articulate somewhere in BC, but figured someone else would know for certain, and yes it seems the CPR didn’t like the ‘European style’ mallets as built, but that was quite a job making those things into decapods don’t you think? Like a D&H rebuild- jack up the bell and whistle and roll a new locomotive under them- speaking of D&H, they took a new challenger to a show in Montreal-once. A royal visit or RR expo? Either event, I was told several Montreal auto body crews were hired to take all the dents and scrapes out of the roof, domes and running boards from swaying into all the rock cuts and tunnel ceilings along Lake Champlain. For ‘most’ practical purposes… except for the CPR’s 1st route in the Rockies, the curves are wide and the grades aren’t too steep, so Canada just was articulate country…
I stand corrected. Are there pictures kicking around anywhere?
Not to start a controversy but are not all Shay type locomotives considerated articulated.
Articulated locomotives have 2 seperate frames connected by a pin (or something like that) that would allow the front cylinders and drivers to move seperate from the rear set (i.e. BHC #110 or 3985) making the large locomotive to take wide and sharp(er) turns.
So no. Shay’s aren’t articulated.
Phil
Here’s some info on Canfor’s articulated:
http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/list/wt111/weyer111.htm
Still looking for a pic of her in Canfor paint…
Phil
I’m always amazed about the wealth of infos one can obtain by simply asking on this forum,thanks everyone.
I was born in the fifties so I’ve never seen (or remember seeing) a steam locomotive in operation.I now learn that private companies still used a few units here and there within their boundaries but I don’t think there were any still thundering the mains in North America.I may be wrong though…
That suggests me another question…if I could go back in time and wanted to see a brand new diesel (either passenger or freight) meeting a steamer (again either type) on double mains,what year (or span of years) should I choose?I imagine that there were transition years as railway companies certainly didn’t swap their whole fleet instantaneously.My guess is 1948-53,how good am I?Thanks.
To answer the question of a photo of the 2-6-6-2, I have one, but it’s in the book Vancouver Island Railroads by Rob Turner (Sono Nis Press, Winlaw, BC, 1975, 2005). He offers very little info over what I provided earlier. Looks to me like a very nice engine.
As to witnessing the first meet of a diesel and steamer, I was present as an 11 year-old when the first diesel under its own power made its way from sea level (at Lima) to where we lived at 14,300’ above sea level in the Andes at a town called Cerro de Pasco. This happened in 1963, and I believe the diesels were GP-9’s when all were accounted for…can’t say at this point.
The diesel was not capable of hauling the train by itself, so it was pushed at the rear of the consist by a well-used 2-8-0 that Cerro Mining Corporation used on its trackage. The Company owned the tracks between Cerro and La Oroya, some 150 km distant over the Junin Pampa. La Oroya was where the company’s Peruvian head offices were located, and where all ores were smelted in a good sized smelter.
-Crandell