Canadian Pacific Passenger Cars?

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In the 1950s did Canadian Pacific use mostly heaveyweight passenger cars or Harrimann cars or …?

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Brian

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Yes and no. You need to be VERY specific. Different regions and different passenger trains used different equipment. Starting in 55, the Canadian was mostly all Budd (U class tourist sleepers the exception) and second class trains had, well, it depends on the train and specific year. The 50s were a transition decade. David B

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Say mostly Ontario - Toronto, Thunder bay and out of Ontario into Winnipig.

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Brian

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Pre 55…a mix of heavyweights and 2200 series light weights. Post 55…Budds. David B

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Sorta, not quite that simple.

The brand new Budd cars (and only Budd cars, with the exception of “U” series tourist sleepers - heavyweights with fluting and painted to match the stainless cars) on the Canadian. Standard (heavyweight and non-stainless lightweight) cars on everything else, including the second transcontinental passenger train, the Dominion. Although sometimes the Dominion would use a Budd tail-end dome/lounge “Park” car. But otherwise the Budds were only on the Canadian.

The Canadian was a brand new train in 1955, with brand new equipment acquired to make it a signature streamliner. The 1950s was still the era of the streamliners.

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When did CP stop using the standard heaveyweight passenger cars? Say in the Ontario area, Thunder Bay, Nipigon, toronto?

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Heavyweight sleepers were regular on the Dominion until its demise in 1966, and returrned briefly in 1967 on the Expo Limited. Thereafter a handful survived based in Montreal, seeing very occasional use mostly on the Atlantic Limited. Heavyweight coaches disappeared much earlier (apart from Montreal commuter service) since the fleet of 2100 and 2200 series coaches was more than adequate due to widespread passenger train discontinuance.

John

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Do you know when they stopped using heavyweight coaches?

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