I am currently looking for prototype info for this loco.it was used as a commuter push/pull loco. also, Does anyone know if there is a manufacturer makeing something looking close to what this looks like? Help is apreaceateted!
If you Google CN steam you’ll find a site summerville-novascotia.com that has some photos of class X10 locos. Also there is a site with info on CN steam including some drawings with technical info.
Division Point North is supposed to bring out a model of the X10 next year but of course it will be brass, beautiful and likely cost $1500. I have never heard of another model of this loco.
CN Charlie
United offered one too; here is one for sale:
http://home.ca.inter.net/~brmna/blho.htm
Caboose lists six versions/numbers coming from Division Point.
http://thecaboose.com/future.lasso?-token.skip=330
See also:
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slcacnX10.jpg
http://orion.math.iastate.edu/jdhsmith/term/slcacn.htm
If I were going to kit bash one, I’d start with a Bowser PRR K4 chassis - the driver spacing looks close, and Bowser 62" drivers. The Bowser PRR H10 boiler (minus the firebox) looks close - it may be a bit too large - but I would probably start out with tubing, and add wrappers to get the correct profile.
Nik - If you can be more specific regarding just what prototype info you are seeking, I’m sure that I can supply it. Re “Suburban-type” locomotives, smaller ones (generally 2-6-2T) were in wide use across the United States a little more than a century ago for early commuter service. Larger, heavier examples (4-6-4T and 4-6-6T) were employed on the CNJ, B&A and a few other roads up through WWII.
Regarding models of this type of locomotive, the earliest commercially available models were in S-scale. One was actually offered before WWII. It was of the CNJ’s 4-6-4T and I’ve only ever seen a single surviving example (maker unknown to me) in all my years in the hobby. RexEngineering did another early one for S in 1953, representing a NYC D2a (2-4-4T) such as ran on the NYC’s Putnam Division.
The earliest HO example came in 1953 with International offering a brass model of the B&A class D1a (4-6-6T). By today’s standards it was really quite primative looking but still on a par with other brass locos of the day.
Around 1960, Ken Kidder, Gem LMB and Precision Engineering all brought in a small brass 2-6-2T, double-ender with dual tubing pilots, commuter-type locomotive. These sold very cheaply under the title of “2-6-2 Convertibles” since their wheel arrangement could be varied by the modeler (along with certain other of the model’s details). The same enigine, later offered with footboards instead of front and rear tubing pilots, was sold as a logging locomotive.
About 1970, Huntington Model Works, Models West and then PFM, offered examples of the CNJ’s H1s 4-6-4T suburban in brass, the latter’s model being far superior to that of the other two. These very impressive models turn up quite often on eBay with the PFM usually commanding substantially more money.
During this same time period,
I don’t know how much help this will be but I thought that I’d mention it. While there haven’t been any North American models of 4-6-4t’s in plastic or diecast metal, that wheel arrangement has been made by several European companies. The prototypes are European so you’d have a lot of changes to make but at least you’d have the basic mechanism to work with. Fleischman and Lilliput have made models of the German DB 78 class which is a 4-6-4t and I think that Trix has as well. Trix is two rail (Maerklin engines are the 3 rail versions) but you have to check on the others as they made both types. It would be a challenging project but coming up with 1500 bucks for a brass version can be an even greater challenge for some of us. Good luck. Werner
Division Point has announced an X-10 model with 105 models being made. If you want one…better hurry, or “bash” one of your own using a 4-6-0 with a short tender.
Cheers, Bruce
One of those PFM locos sat in the used brass case of the LHS for quite some time, and sold only fairly recently. While the tag indicated its true identity as a CNJ loco, the previous owner had done a credible job of turning it into a CNR loco. I don’t recall the price, but it wasn’t overly expensive.
Wayne
There is a nice summary of the history of these locomotives at the Steamtown site. They have CN #47, although it is in pretty rough condition. One can do a Google search for 'Steamtown roster" if the link below doesn’t work.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/steamtown/shs3a.htm
Bill
This book has pictures of a lot of different Steam used by CPR and CNR and includes pictures of the 4-6-4T. It’s an excellent book!
Fergie
Daaang, this thread is so old I forgot about it.
This loco was originally going to be used on my first layout as a local switcher, but as that was scrapped, I no longer had a reason to make/aquire it. But, seeing how this might be able to fit in my new plan, this could be a “in the future when I get around to it” type off thing.
Thanks guys.