CN conductors' union fails to ratify labor agreement

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CN conductors’ union fails to ratify labor agreement

If record profits should translate to record pay… should lower profit translate to lower pay? Not sure the union would agree on this.

Perhaps the editors at TRAINS Newswire should rename this the ‘gambit’ comments. Especially with adjectives that are completely irrelevant to this and many other rr news story. From s-bags to Cuomo and now scum ( ! )
Wouldn’t it be a lot more interesting otherwise everyone ?

Wow a union that has a backbone. Record profits should mean record pay. Stay the coarse my brothers and sisters. Good luck

JF, have you ever seen anyone in upper management take a pay cut when earnings are down? Hell no. As long as that stock did better than the previous quarter they still get their bonuses and options.

Load all the Teamster scum in covered gondolas and ship them to the Meadowlands (NJ) landfill, via CPR, to rest with Jimmy Hoffa. Sorry. No cattle cars available. Mooo!

Hays shows real class calling people he doesn’t even know scum. I’m union, IBEW, my dad and his dad were union, BLE, and I’ll guarantee it would not be a good idea to call any of us names in person. Unions have helped create the middle class around the world. I don’t know what he does for a living but I’ll bet unions in some way helped make his workplace safer or his pay better. But small minded people don’t understand that I guess.

…and we wonder why corporations constantly seek methods to lay off workers and replace with a button or a FRED !

WOW! Mr. Hays comments really bring down the quality of this usually high quality site.

WOW! Mr. Hays comments really bring down the quality of this usually high quality site.

In 2006 CN conductors (then UTU) voted 96% in favour of a strike.
It was a long bitter strike, we were sold out by the US UTU leadership, the Canadian union leaders were removed by Cleveland; and, we were legislated back to work by Parliament.
Two years later, the UTU found itself on the losing end of a hard fought representation vote, and the BLE (TCRC) took over.
The CN leopard will not change its spots. This vote does not surprise me at all.
One day the story of the 2006 CN strike will be told in the pages of this magazine. It will shock readers.
When I entered train service in 1995, BCR conductors were paid $26.36/hr. In 2009, they got $29.32. Now it’s $31.20. That’s pretty paltry.
As a power engineer, I make much, much more, and my working conditions are no longer poisoned by Illinois Central alumni from the South. Hence I no longer railroad.
There is an old saying that a company deserves the union it gets.
Go TCRC, go. Stick it to them, Rex Beatty!

I assume Mr Hays and his loved ones never have to utilize passenger trains such as those I operate and am responsible for your lives. Maybe you think like the carrier in that human transport is just like freight but with meat sacks?

@STEVEN F BAUER
I understand your point about management wages being totally disconnected. Generally, management bonuses suffer when the stock market tumbles and rise along when the market is upturned, although those fluctuation are often not much related to the company’s performance by itself. But my point is: let’s be careful before linking any pay raise with profibability/losses. Personnally, I’d rather see unions campaigning on rest and safety issues rather than wages. The market can handle the wage aspect, but is utterly unable to handle other work aspects.

William Hays: You probably been inhaileimg too much manure to say what you said. Back to the subject at hand. I wonder if the Canadian government is following us? Or,are we following them? Either way, it’s no good!

“Trainpersons”,“yardpersons”??
Do these PC yahoos have any sense as to how stupid they sound?
Nah.

I’ve been a trains subscriber for years, but of late the lack of oversight on the part of the editors (i.e. Hays and others) has lowered this part of the magazine to an unacceptable level. Editors, DO YOUR JOB!!!