From the CBC:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/cn-fuel-cars-derail-explode-west-of-edmonton-1.2126678
LPG tank cars - possibly also a few with crude oil - but apparently not anything like a “fuel tender” for the locomotives, which the headline kinda / sorta seemed to indicate.
- Paul North.
Paul (or anybody else).
Do I have it right that LPG-propane- is more volatile than Liquified Natural Gas?
Jeaton,
No. LNG has much, much, much lower boiling point than does Propane, which is lower than Butane. Both Propane and Butane are liquefied petroleum gas at ambient temperatures.
LNG has to be refrigerated far below ambient temperatures to get it to liquefy. LNG is a cryogenic. Propane and Butane are not.
Mac McCulloch
Former Manager Field Operations for AAR Bureau of Explosives
Here’s more from the CBC:
“Edmonton train derailment latest safety setback for CN Rail”:
“We run a safe railroad, but we do have incidents.”
So reassuring to know these derailments with fires, explosions and evacuations are just “incidents.”
I just hope the FRA keeps close tabs on CN in the US.
Reminds me of the opening scene in Star Trek VI when the entire Klingon planet Praxis explodes; Captain Sulu radios the Klingons to see if they need assistance, whereby the Klingons answer, “Yes, we have had an “incident”, but we do not require aid”.
The controlled burn authorities had planned on using to put the fire out didn’t work. so now they don’t know what their next move is. Gainford is 53 miles west of Edmonton with a population of 132.
Bruce
Lord knows they’re the only railroad that needs watching…[*-)]
Dan, a “spew alert” could have been placed appropriately at the beginning of your post.[:D] I didn’t spew any, but…
Well, it looks like things are returning to normal. A CTV News story released at 4:51 PM MDT said residents have been advised they can return home. The CN website says their line will be back in service by 7:00 PM MDT.
I’m surprised this story didn’t get more attention on the TRAINS Newswire considering it happened on the CN transcontinental mainline, and CN no longer had in service branch lines to provide a detour route. On the CN website’s State of the Railroad section with its’ red, yellow, green level system, it warranted a red indication.
CTV News story:
CN Website:
Bruce
I know that I saw two trains that normally don’t stop in the area (Q199 and M347) stop and set out British Columbia bound traffic where instructed. About a day later those setouts were collected and sent north as a single train of empty centerbeam flats and loaded well cars.
Several CN detour trains were reported as operating over the CP between Kamloops and Calgary. One of which was a grain empty.
My 2 cents worth: When you communicate effectively at the beginning of a mess it makes all the difference in the world. Thx IGN
Thanks for that. I hadn’t seen any sightings reported on the forums I normally follow.
Bruce