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I think the BN-ATSF merger should never have happenned. ATSF was a great independent railroad!!! Also, UP getting SP was sad, too.
NS/CSX/CR! I hate these GE NS brings up here! I hate NS period for that matter!
Probably the BN-ATSF merger. They took two excellent paint scemes and replaced them with a butt-ugly one.
Union Pacific eating Southern Pacific.
I wi***he Wisconsin Central was still a seperate railroad. Now that they’re gone there’s only one mainly-in-Wisconsin railroad, the Wisconsin & Southern Railroad[:(!][:(!][:(][:(][V]
Noah[:p][8D][:p]
UP+ SP my Dad owned SP stock and it went in the tolit and I hate UP’S SP PATCH HELP!!!SAVE THIS COUNTRY FORM UNCLE PETE AND DAVISON AND HIS CLOWN GENSIUS!!![:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)]
The BN-SF merger ruffles my features the most. Generally speaking, I hate mergers period. Inevitably someone gets [censored] out of a job, while the corporate brass sit on their thrones with a ‘*** happens’ attitude. I’m fed up with the dog-eat-dog mentality that mergers represent. The perceived benefits are few, IMHO.
The Conrail purchase saddened me. Here you have a railroad that rose from the ashes of fallen flags only to be carved up by those reaping the rewards from investments. There was no need for it. Conrail was a bonified Class 1 railroad that shouldn’t have been bought out.
Just my 2 cents
Gordon
The chessie system seabord merger shouldn’t have hapend. The chessie logo and paint schem ewere the best and not only did one railroad go down in this merge but in chessie system their was B&O, C&O and WM.
also I thought that CN bought Wissconsin Central not CP Rail
I wasn’t pleased by the CN/WC merger nor was I pleased by WC buying the Algoma central a few years before. The ACR was a neat railroad now it’s sole is completely gone. TB
I would say that I am torn between the UP+SP one as well as BN+AT&SF mergers… I remember as a kid watching the Santa Fe’s rolling through Corona California and now I have UP right on the other side of the freeway from me in Fontana CA… at least I get to see the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific loco’s now and again pulling through here.
Hi Chris!
None of 'em! They created fallen flags. I miss all those “old” railroads I saw growing up. [:(]
I’ll have to say UP eating up (literally) SP and Rio Grande. I know that SP was kind of the ‘sick case’ of west coast railroads, but UP didn’t plan ahead when they took over SP and they’re still suffering from Traveling Gridlock. And UP literally wiping out Rio Grande’s traffic base by diverting just about everything north through Wyoming (as if the UP tracks there weren’t busy enough) left Colorado with just about as much rail mileage and traffic as it had in 1870. And even though Tennessee Pass had a tough 21-mile 3%, at least when SP merged with Rio Grande, the line was busier than a one-armed paper hanger. What I’d like to know, is where did UP divert all that Pueblo Oakland traffic TO? I guess what really kick-starts my head-shaking is that Midwestern UP absorbed two basically mountain railroads and then realized that they didn’t have any idea of what to do with them or how to run them. Okay, my [2c] worth, and sorry if I’ve upset any UP fans out there, but when you live in Northern California where I do and see what’s happening (or not happening, as the case may be) you just get a little discouraged!
Tom [V][:(][:O]
I could’nt decide whether to answer based on emotions- UP-SP, or hard economics-CR-NS-CSX. I ended up going with my feelings, hated to see SP disappear. But I understood it, in financial terms.
Still don’t know why CR needed to be split up, of all of the mergers, this one dosn’t make sense to me, not economically, not route wise, not for better regional transport, either.
Just my opinion.
Well, I didn’t vote, but I don’t really like any mergers. Yes, the corporate “entity” makes more money for the shareholders at the expense of good jobs for honest Americans. Every time I hear the word shareholders anymore I want to puke.
I wonder what they are going to do when they finally eliminate enough good paying jobs thru mergers and/or offshore outsourcing that their consumer base can no longer afford their products. We are heading that way just as fast as we can. And make no mistake, the REALLY fat cat (think billions or hundreds of millions here) supporters of BOTH parties are just getting richer thru the process, so it isn’t about to stop. I just don’t see us sustaining this standard of living selling each other McDonald’s hamburgers.
Our forefathers risked their lives and their fortunes. Our shareholders just want max benefits.
I didn’t vote becuase i think all UP whatever mergers are Controversial. but i don’t want to get into that right now. I could Accidently start a flame war with a UP fan
none of those mergers served the public. Staggers was a mistake.
Guys,None of the modern mergers can top that of the wreck of the Penn-Central merger…This PRR/NYC merger changed the railroad scene forever.There was a lot of power moves in those days prior to the PRR/NYC merger including the C&O taking control of the B&O in fear it might fall into the hands of the talked about PRR/NYC merger.Not to mention the N&W,NKP and Wabash merger.Even the FEDs got in on the act when it appointed the N&W has the overseer of the weak E-L(which the N&W wanted no part of) to prevent its take over.Yes there was a lot of power moves because of the PC merger long before February the 3rd,1968.
I can’t get over Central Pacific leasing all their lines to SP.