Could You Explain...

Hello all. Glad to be back on the forum!

I have a question regarding the movie “Unstoppable”, and switching.

I thought it took air to keep the train breaks released. I am aware that in rail yards, switch jobs don’t normally connect the air hoses between the locomotives (or slug set) to the rest of the train. What keeps the breaks from applying on the train? Does the engineer release the breaks and then have the switchman/conductor pull that valve on the side of the coupler to keep the air from escaping the air line? (I believe it is called the angle cock?)

I was wondering, because in the movie Unstoppable the air hoses were not connected to the two AC4400CW’s.

Justin - Welcome back!

The train line supplies air to a large reservoir for each freight car. When a ‘decrease’ in train line pressure is sensed by the control valve, the air in the reservoir is sent to the brake piston - setting the brakes. When the control valve senses the train line air pressure increasing, it dumps the air from the brake piston and the brakes release,

In freight yard switching, the brake pistons/reservoir are ‘bled’ and there are no active air brakes on the car.

In the case of the movie - that is just ‘Hollywood’!

Jim

Bubba,

JR has your answer.

To expound on his response,

In yards where the cut of cars is to be switched or sorted out, the air brakes are bled off.

The basic concept is the air brakes are a 2 part system, and as long as the system is charged with air, if the train line breaks in two, the air brakes set up, or if the engineer draws some air away from one side of the system, the brakes set.

Look at photos of railcars, and on the side near the bottom center you will see a stenciled label that states “release valve” or Release rod"

Pulling this rod empties the entire air system on that car, allowing us to flat switch the car, in essence they can roll freely because they have no working brake system other than the hand brake.

In the movie, I can only assume that either the “39” cars were either a switch cut waiting to be sorted, or a train made up but not yet worked for air.

The car department will lace all the hoses up, charge the brake system with air, set the brakes and inspect the entire train, both side, for any defect.

We often couple several yard tracks together and set them over as a large train, all with out air, and then leave these cars on ground air for the car department to work.

Also, in the real world, if the air brakes had been charged up, but both anglecocks on the either end of the train, front and rear car, were closed, then the cars could roll free with out an emergency brake application. Of course, if that had been the case, then all that the conductor, Chris Pine, would have to do was open the rear anglecock on the last car when they coupled into the runaway, and the runaway would have gone into emergency braking.

But that would have ruined the whole movie, so…

Besides, they have Denzel working the automatic or train brake handle when he says he is working the independent or locomotive only brake handle.

The movie is full of small inaccuracies simply because the directors/producers didn’t

Ever since that happened, duh!

Must have been while I was on vacation…[|)]

I finally watched the movie last week. It wasn’t so bad once I came to terms with the departure from reality parts.

Since it had been discussed about them using the automatic handle as the independent, I was especially watching for that. I think they may have done that because it would be harder for the camera to see him using the actual independent, it being under the automatic handle. That’s probably the only discrepancy that I could find a reason for why they did it the way they did.

Jeff

I’ve never heard of seals on freight cars, but I suppose it could happen. Don’t some of the old Southern Pacific lines run real close to the Pacific Ocean shore line?

http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/t/188029.aspx

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OpuuAa7gdE

“Blown seal?” Did someone connect it to the air line and inflate the seal? Would it not have floated away?[:)]