read the story at the link below
http://www.sykesvillefire.org/index.cfm?fs=news.newsView&News_ID=71
what do yo uthink CSX will do?
thats bad but did anyone contact CSX about the fire or the hose? if not its there fault CSX would have stoped if they told them.
kevin
CSX was notified and told firefighters that rail traffic had been stopped, but it obviously wasn’t. And this isn’t the first time either. An old mill cought fire by the tracks and CSX was called to stop rail traffic but sure enough a train came.
The dispatchers in Jacksonville (or wherever) were not the same priorities as the locals. Would not be unless the fire set the train on fire. Then you would have their attention.
Tough situation. I think that it falls under the “tough ***sky,” clause for the fire dept.
CSX really looks good, don’t they? Their responses to emergencies, or lack of them are the stuff of legends. The Selkirk DS crew is pretty fair, but complain endlessly about “dead spots” for communications with trains. CSX cut power levels of some repeaters to ease congestion on the radio system, but the system is not perfect. The dispatchers gripe endlessly about things they haven’t been told about --until it’s too late! To run over fire hoses is unforgivable. I would have the dispatcher involved and a union rep in a formal hearing, the results of which would mean that proper communications would wind up in the proper hands! Conrail had a system in place to deal with matters like this, so do CN,CP and NS, today. C’Mon, CSX. Next time it might be an occupied dwelling, then what?
Well if the matter goes farther the tapes will be pulled to see if the train dispatcher issued instructions to nearby trains not to pass that certain location until told to do so. If the dispatcher didn’t properly control the train then it falls on him/her. If the dispatcher did indeed notify the crew and the crew acknowledged the order, then it will fall on the crew. It’s hard to say how far CSX would pursue this event since no injuries or major damage ocurred.
My guess would be that CSX will pay the Fire Dept for the damaged Supply Line and call it a day.
LC
Sounds like CSX the Cant Stop Xpress. The fire fighters do have a legitamte claim about the hose.
we had a fire at the manville plant here in town right by the tracks. CSX trains were halted.if they were at fault they should pay for the damages.
stay safe
joe
Firefighters are trained to rig a line that will not be exposed to damage they cannot control. The captain on the scene should have taken this into account. They are also trained not to rely on quick action by outside agencies, like public utilities, as well as railroads. Some of the responsibility rests with the person in charge at the scene.
With that said, if CSX told them, then it should have been confirmed (by CSX) that everything was indeed stopped.
A similiar thing happened here in Tulsa a few months ago, I actually heard the BNSF Dispatcher tell all the trains on the Sub that a stop order had been issued from MPxx to MPxx because of a traffic accident on a grade crossing. Each train that was near that section had to read back the order to him. The others simply held where they were. But it is single track CTC on the Cherokee Sub. Not sure what it is where this happened.
Mike in Tulsa
BNSF Cherokee Sub