no…you missunderstand what i was saying…conrail was a northern road… csx was mostly a southern road… and when csx took over part of conrail…the conrail boys that where unhappy with loseing conrail came up with csx as conrails southern extention… see what im saying?
csx engineer
the C stands for Chessie, the S stands for seaboard, and the x stands for all the little companies they had on the side of their rail transportation.
The whole CSXT Conrail ordeal was going just fine untill NS came in the picture.
NS said: Oh no…We want a piece of the pie. CSXT wanted Conrail,NS wasnt happy,so NS went to mommy complaining to the STB. Go figure! LOL.
Allan.
Check your history books, Allan. NS bid on Conrail when it was first offered to the public by the government entity that took over all the failing NE railroads. Their bid was rejected on the grounds that it would reduce compition in too many areas. Years later when CSX’s bid was accepted, NS was justifiably upset that the same rules didn’t apply to the other guy.
As to a better name for CSX, how about Atlantic Seaboard & Ohio Valley, which includes elements of some of the larger predessors and also somewhat describes its geographic range.
Chessie System would suite me fine because who can’t love that little kitten.[;)]
While driving today, I thought the proper name should have been Atlantic & Ohio. Now I see rrnut282 sort of beat me to it![:)]
I belive the C stands for Chessie System, S for Seaboard System and X means they are multiplied. The T is on the reporting marks so as not to confuse railroad owned cars with private cars whose reporting marks must end in X.
To the best of my knowlege this is the reason. I hope this helps.
Thank you all for the info.
Allan.
“Conrail’s Southern eXtension” would have been a good descriptive name at one time. Before taking over their portion of Conrail, CSX had hired a whole bunch of ex-Conrail management in an effort to fix their ailing railroad.
I like “Atlantic Seaboard & Western” as an alternative to CSXT.
Before the Conrail takeover by NS and CSX, NS was beating the socks off CSX in terms of profitability and customer service, despite CSX’s superior routes in the Southeast and their dominance of Florida railroading. Kind of interesting to consider that and the statements in the Milwaukee Road and Great Northern threads that superior grades/routing/whatever is the end-all and be-all of railroading. It just ain’t so - if it were, CSX would have put NS out of business before the Conrail takeover.
There, that ought to start some fireworks.
There is an old saying. " If you have a railroad, you better run it right or it will run you."
C=Chessie
S=Seaboard
X=Combined
The “T” was thrown in for good measure. You see, when CSX first became “CSX,” they wanted to use “CSX” for their reporting marks on freight cars. The big guys in charge would not let them, as the last letter “X” was exclusive for private freight car owners(SHPX, ADMX, etc.). As a result, CSX came up with “CSX Transportation,” so that they complied with the rules of having “X” on the end of their reporting marks.
CSX originally stood for Conrail S*X. [}:)]
C= Chessie ,S = Seaboard , X = Conglomerantes (real estate,tech.area’s,sea carriers,etc.) , T= Transportation.I saw that in an old newsletter that my Dad got before he retired.
By the way,I was told by some N&W old heads when I hired on, that the Gov. offered most of what would be Conrail to the N&W,and they turned them down saying that aquiring all the old debt would make them go belly up.Kind of ironic that it would take a multi-billion dollar bidding war to get what was offered for free.
Ironic, That is very interesting choice of words mackb4. Care to bring the rest of us up to speed? - PL
C ommon
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thank you…thats what i said about 3 or 4 postings ago… some people still think its not that way…but that is what the letters stand for…but you cant tell some people anything i guess…
you would think that someone that actuly works for the outfits word would hold some water…but i guess not
csx engineer
Hey Piopslion,what book has that saying you quoted in it?Here’s an old one I heard from an engineer that passed[angel] on earlier this year. “Once I couldn’t even spell engineer,but today I are one”. Are you one ?I am [swg].
I compliment you on your accomplishment of being on the right side, there are very people few that can say what you just wrote. The responsibility and skill that you have to do your job are rare and you are owed great respect on assuming those responsibilities. Books are limited in describing what you do and especially how it is done and I don’t think they ever will really be able to - PL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ By the way, that saying comes from the man who built the AB&C section of what is now CSXT. Any one who worked for him called him Mr. Shepperd. To me he was my Great Grandfather.
Great roots grows great trees [2c] ! Glad your from the good guys side.[^]