Deleted Thread about Court Decision

Today I checked a thread I started about the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision concerning environmental lawsuits about a new train route. I couldn’t find the thread. Later, I checked my email and I had received a notice my post had been flagged and then a moderator deleted it.

It’s not a big deal to me except I didn’t see anything political in it. The court decision was 8-0 so it wasn’t real controversial. I don’t know if someone posted something wrong in the middle of the night, but none of the comments as of yesterday were a problem that I could see.

Any ideas?

Perhaps this is what you mentioned: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-environment-utah-railway-oil-multibillion-dollar-56f8dc9346a1836771509b5198098afd

That’s the article’s link I had in the original post.

Well, John, let’s see what happens this time. A reply from me could easily be sufficient for a removal, even if I say nothing! :laughing:

John (of Attu)

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It seems to happen quite a lot. Moderation is beginning to revert to past practices: locked popular threads concerning Metra, CAHSR, HSR etc. Perhaps only threads about paint schemes are approriate?

They were locked because they contained politics, attacking members and race related.

Race related? I must’ve missed that. As far as the thread referenced here in the title, I had nothing to do with it. What I find interesting is that I got two emails today that two of my posts were deleted. It’s funny because that thread was locked earlier, so it was sorta pointless.

I did not mention any names.
As for the mention of race, that was mentioned earlier in the thread by a member.
The thread then carried on into politics. It was reported and part of the thread was deleted and locked.

Your posts, Backstop, were also deleted as the thread was locked.

Locking of threads need not happen if members stayed within the rules.

The moderators should take look at other forums. You don’t need to lock a thread or delete it without any explanation why this happens.
On MRH forum there is usually a warning to stay within rules and only when nothing changes a thread gets locked. Sometimes just violating posts are deleted.
Regards, Volker

No need to if people stay within the rules.

I personally have posted that members to stay within those rules. (Though I am not a Moderator here) If members continue to go outside the rules a complaint goes to the Moderators. If they feel the thread should be locked, locked it will be.

railroading, especially passenger transportation, takes place in a political environment where it is difficult not to break the rules.

I think we should allow a little leeway and only delete the excesses.

And if someone thinks a thread is (too) political, they don’t have to flag it straight away, nobody is forced to read it or participate

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True, but if it continues it has to. Those that were locked had a length of time being political, almost abusive to other members or race related.

I leave you with Stay within the rules.

You appear to be an insider when it comes to knowledge of deleted posts and locked threads. Several of us have observed that entire posts are unlikely to break the rules just part, yet the whole post is removed with no possibility that the OP would be allowed to remove the identified portion. And this is a departure from the technique when the new forum started.

The only ‘inside knowledge’ I have is as a Moderator on a U.K. Forum.

As for the rest of your post why not contact the Moderators yourself and state your case.

I have done several times and no response. The forum moderation seems to have become “User Unfriendly” over time.

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? I get a reply every time. Granted not straight away as I am in the U.K., but a reply each time. Use the flag on the post and send a message.

Let the Moderators explain it. Anyone can call client service and find out why a thread was locked…at least you could when this was Kalmbach. If you try to explain it, people are going to think you had something to do with it.

Hate to do this myself because I just told someone else it is not a good idea but…

Locked means nobody can update the thread but they still want it public facing. Removed or deleted means they want to remove the post from public view.

Nothing is actually deleted for legal reasons. It is just removed from public view. Everything you post and then delete later…they retain and the moderators can read it. Usually, that is how forum software works. A post is only deleted if a moderator deletes it permanently and they try to avoid doing that. So if there is legal issue or someone protests so much…they can restore the post later.

They remove posts outside rules breaking. If someone posts a link to content they are not comfortable with or do not like they will remove that as well. The posters are not the only ones reading the posts here. Lawyers for copyright material as well as firms read the posts as well (probably via automated means). We had this issue repeatedly when I was a Mod on another website. Also had it when I worked at Internet Operations at Superpages dot com long ago. Companies would call in all the time and ask content to be removed because of various issues that some lawyer or reputation service made them aware of.

Add this to the list of “interesting” thread no-no’s.
I don’t know how to say the word, since it is not allowed.

I was trying to tell Steve about the Morse code. There are two types. RR’s used one that I cannot repeat, or my message gets negated. Of course the ham operators use the International Morse.

Just for kicks I will include the “bad” word and see if I get rejected. As I am a US citizen, I would be called an Ameri—. Can you believe?

Here goes endmrw0603252057
Result = would NOT allow