Well now, this is certainly not going to be helpful in having a reasoned discussion of Crude-by Rail. A group called ForestEthics has published an interactive map telling you if you live in the Blast Zone of a Crude-by-Rail derailment along RR lines in both the US and Canada.
See for yourself:
http://explosive-crude-by-rail.org/
Bruce
We all have a right to be scarred!
Mac
It’s a twister, it’s a twister! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXTx_nEThPA
I wonder how soon they plan to produce a similar map of Interstate Highways and tollways.
John Timm
Anything to make the sheep think the wolf is at the door. [:'(]
I hope they can do better next time. The map shows the wrong rail line in my area. The line 6 blocks from my house is shown, not the correct line 6 miles east. Also shown is a branch line that hasn’t been used in the 30 years I’ve lived here. I wonder if there’s a coincidence in the fact that I live in the state’s biggest city? [:-,]
I’m pretty sure they have a CP line in Saskatchewan that is wrong as well. Where is Doc Murdock when we need him.
Bruce
Murphy,
This map is largely fact free as you point out. It is in the spirit of those progressive era maps that showed land grants to be many times larger than they really were.
Lairs lie. There is no good response to this stuff. The best the carriers can do is ignore it and point out errors when asked.
Mac
And scared, too. Sorry Mac, I couldn’t help it, even though my fingers stutter at times, too.[:)]
According to their map, I do live outside both of the danger zones. However, if I travel by rail, I put myself right into the worse zone–but I will still travel by rail when I am able because I have never worried about such damage, even when going by a train loaded with petroleum–or any other hazardous material.
I wonder how these people travel and live–do they refuse to use any petroleum products? I also wonder, if they do use petroleum products–have they ever thought how it is possible for the products to be available so they can use them?
“+1” - my thought exactly.
Wonder what their source data is, and how they obtained it ?
Best that no one tell them how the military shipped munitions during WW I and WW II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq I, etc. - let along nuclear weapons and waste, chemical weapons, etc., etc. [:-,] Then again, maybe they’ll just pass out from the thought of it all . . . [swg]
Drove from Boca Raton to Jacksonville yesterday - passed 15 or 20 BOMBS - identified gas trucks, lord only knows how many other HAZMAT bombs I passed going my way - and going the other way - staggering.
OK lets scratch the whole plan to get away from forign oil dependance. It isn’t going to work. There is just way too much of a chance that your whole neighborhood (and mabee your whole town or state) will be wiped off the map. [}:)] I say we do away with the whole program and go back to heavy reliance on middle eastern oil so we can fund some more radical terrorists that have lofty dreams (religious goals) of wiping us out entirely. I would feel so much safer. [:(][:S][:|][:-,]
A very telling line on the cited website:
. I guess they’ve guessed everything they could, and now need more help to find out where the trains really go…
I fully agree about the Interstate thing (and a lot of “secondary roads” in and out of locales not served by Interstates…
And when the add the lines they’re told about, do you really think they’d delete the incorrect ones?
I don’t know Carl. Are you saying these guys have an agenda?[:(!][swg][8D]
Hmmm…
I didn’t think there was any freight going over Raton pass these days.
Looking at some other areas, I suspect that much of this is a fantasy.
Mabee the same tree hugger fantasy where laptops an ipads run on reverse osmosis power from warm & fuzzy land. A power source that is way more important then things like paying attention to the road…[:^)]
I live less than 500 yards from the BNSF main into Houston, work in the middle of refinery row, and ride these nut jobs “bombs” all over the place all day long…do I look worried?
I think they’d also need to mark the major streets through our city, and all the streets in the industrial parks, and those roads leading to the water treatment plant, the sewer treatment plant, the airport and the feed elevators.
At the end of the piece, there’s a box with the words “Learn More”.
Sorta wish they would.
Tom