No i dont think he was.
2 laws of physics
an object at rest will remain at rest
an object in motion will remain in motion.
thats why its important to wear your safety belt in a car.
the car may stop because you hit something but your body is still going at 50 or whatever.[:(]
so please stay safe
and thanks Mr Bok.Upper Deck
Joe
By most accounts,Casey was a teetotolar. He had a reputation for running fast,and a file full of write-ups as a result. He was also known for getting the most out of a locomotive.As noted,this was way before you died on the law at 12 hours.Fatigue could have been a factor,but we’ll probably never know for sure.
Drunk on speed back then, I’d quess.
A product of his society.
Everyone wanted speed, but someone had to pay.
Sorta like these times and probably all of them.
Balance the supply and demand and the majority gets by.
The rest are so…much…ground…meat.
I have been to Jackson and seen the 10 wheeler there. There is also a train hotel type setup where you can stay in a caboose or railroad car. It has been about 6 or 7 years since I went there and can’t really remember alot about it. There is a museum. I ate at a restaurant there but don’t remember if it was associated with Casey Jones Museum or not. The food was good though.
That’s an ex-Southern Pacific 4-6-0 at the Jackson Casey Jones Museum. The 382 was repaired after the wreck and I believe it wound up its career in Mexico.
There are some ex-IC passenger cars and side-door cabooses at the Casey Jones Motel in Jackson and the restaurant is part of “Casey Jones Village.” The Jones house was moved from its original location, though there are some original furnishings inside. (Plus Casey’s pocket watch and some other ephemera). There are also museums near the wreck site in Vaughan, MS and in Water Valley, MS.
Kevin - you are right - speed in that context does not kill - it is the sudden stop that does.
Also here in US - we have a different meaning for speed besides going fast. Was just being an imp as usual!
Mookie
Anyone know where one could access the Sim Webb recording? .I’d love to listen to it. My understanding is that Sim made a recording that was a narration of what happened that night. For those who don’t know the details of the full story, Sim was Casey’s fireman. I have looked high and low…without any luck.
Here’s a link to a site that has a recording of Sim Webb. I haven’t heard it yet; it may not be the whole interview. But–it’s a start! I’ll keep looking–Southern Fast Mail
Did they need a specially built boxcar for his files[:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)]
DOGGY
Why were the Trains so long the company should of know but even if their was no freight trains Casey Jones would get into an accident like this some time
DOGGY
Casey Jones was killed by a blow to the back of the head from the cigarette smoking man. The wreck was staged to destroy evidence of alien life that had been uncovered during the grading of a new right of way. All the bodies were then incinerated to hide trail.
The human body can withstain quite a large amount of sudden stop and survive but it is the stop that finishes you.More specifically, the rate of decel of your internal organs against your skeletal structure is what usually ‘does you in’. BTW- I thoght he was ‘high on cocaine’!!!
In response to Doggy’s post regarding the length of the freight trains on the sidetrack at Vaughan:
Casey Jones was aware that there were two freights on the sidetrack that were too long for the length of track. He was given orders to “saw by” the freights at Vaughan. That meant he would have to carefully run the train down the main line as one freight “sawed” south onto the main. When the southbound New Orleans Special cleared the north end of the switch, the southbound freight would have backed onto the main, permitting the northbound freight to “saw” north onto the switch. That would have cleared the mainline for the NOS. However, an air hose broke on one of the freights before any “sawing” could be done. When the NOS came around the curve just north of the Vaughan station, the fouled mainline was blocked from Casey Jones’ view by the 382’s boiler. I imagine the torpedos went off and Sim Webb spotted the caboose markers about the same time.
Even ducks, birds and bees appreciate the physics of stopping. There are two kinds: good and bad. You walk away for another try if it was good. A bad stop is your final attempt. It is easy to speed but good stopping requires skill and distance. No matter whether he was sober or not, there was not space to execute a good stop.
Lindsay
That’s right!!!–“Drivin’ that train, high on cocaine, Casey Jones you’d better watch your speed!” From what I’ve heard, cocaine and speed don’t mix well! Must of been alcohol!![:o)] My apologies to the “Grateful Dead”.
Wallyworld, I didn’t have any luck finding the Sim Webb recording either. I checked with one of the museum curators and he didn’t know but thought it was owned by Sun Recordings. When I checked there, I could only come up with Elvis and a quartet which included Johnny Cash singing about Sim Webb. I tried. If I get email from any of the other museum guys that has it, I’ll let you know.
And he said,
"Jump SIm, Jump.
For there’s two locomotives that are gonna bump!
Casey Jones, mountin’ to the cabin,
Casey Jones, Orders in his hand,
Casey Jones, mountin’ to the cabin,
For he’s gonna take a trip into the Promised Land."
It’s refered to as deceleration trauma