East of Laramie, Wy.......

[chad_thomas]

I am planning a trip to Wyoming in a couple months so I picked up the AP timetable that covers Mt.-Wy.-Ne. at the LHS this weekend. While going over it I came across the UP line east of Laramie. The TT shows there are 2 double track routes west of Cheyanne that turns into a double track and a seperate single track alignment and then back into 2 seperate double track alignments. Can someone give me a rundown on operations in this area? How do they run the trains and why so many tracks?<…cough cough…oh RJ…>

[dldance]

Sherman Hill!!!

dd

[bobwilcox]

The run 80-100 trains a day between Cheyene and Laramie with Sherman Hill in between.

[chad_thomas]

Any idea what the pattern is? Like is it eastbounds on one set of tracks and westbounds on the other set, or drag freights on one set and high hp/t trains on the other.

[beaulieu]

Any idea what the pattern is? Like is it eastbounds on one set of tracks and westbounds on the other set, or drag freights on one set and high hp/t trains on the other.

Chad, the southern most track is used by heavy westbounds and has a 0.82 grade westbound. Fast westbounds use the middle track climbing, while all eastbounds use the northernmost track. 1.25 percent against westbounds to Sherman.
West of Dale, the situation is reversed the northernmost track is the easy climb to Sherman, while westbounds use the steeper track via Red Buttes, as necessary fast eastbounds will use the number 2 track via Red Buttes. All tracks have reverse signals so in a pinch the DS will do what it takes to keep things flowing.

[miniwyo]

Any idea what the pattern is? Like is it eastbounds on one set of tracks and westbounds on the other set, or drag freights on one set and high hp/t trains on the other.

Chad, the southern most track is used by heavy westbounds and has a 0.82 grade westbound. Fast westbounds use the middle track climbing, while all eastbounds use the northernmost track. 1.25 percent against westbounds to Sherman.
West of Dale, the situation is reversed the northernmost track is the easy climb to Sherman, while westbounds use the steeper track via Red Buttes, as necessary fast eastbounds will use the number 2 track via Red Buttes. All tracks have reverse signals so in a pinch the DS will do what it takes to keep things flowing.

Well Chad, Looks like he beat me to it. Glad I could help! [:P]

[chad_thomas]

Any idea what the pattern is? Like is it eastbounds on one set of tracks and westbounds on the other set, or drag freights on one set and high hp/t trains on the other.

Chad, the southern most track is used by heavy westbounds and has a 0.82 grade westbound. Fast westbounds use the middle track climbing, while all eastbounds use the northernmost track. 1.25 percent against westbounds to Sherman.
West of Dale, the situation is reversed the northernmost track is the easy climb to Sherman, while westbounds use the steeper track via Red Buttes, as necessary fast eastbounds will use the number 2 track via Red Buttes. All tracks have reverse signals so in a pinch the DS will do what it takes to keep things flowing.

Thanks Beaulieu, that was just what I was looking for.

[spbed]

If U R really going to Wyoming in a “few” months do not forget your parka, mittens & shawl. May I also suggest the bridge over the Green River yard. It gives you quite a view of the UPRR

I am planning a trip to Wyoming in a couple months so I picked up the AP timetable that covers Mt.-Wy.-Ne. at the LHS this weekend. While going over it I came across the UP line east of Laramie. The TT shows there are 2 double track routes west of Cheyanne that turns into a double track and a seperate single track alignment and then back into 2 seperate double track alignments. Can someone give me a rundown on operations in this area? How do they run the trains and why so many tracks?<…cough cough…oh RJ…>

[nanaimo73]

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

[chad_thomas]

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

Dang it Dale, Don’t you know I’m trying to quit feeding the trolls.

[nanaimo73]

Whoops.

[spbed]

Thanks but my pix only cover Rock Springs westward.

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

[Murphy_Siding]

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

Is the answer to the first trivia question YES? And the second one NO?[:o)]

[chad_thomas]

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

Is the answer to the first trivia question YES? And the second one NO?[:o)]

1. No, But my last girlfriend says I look good in tight jeans.[;)]

2. I could also shoot myself in the head…but I’m not gunna.

[miniwyo]

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

Is the answer to the first trivia question YES? And the second one NO?[:o)]

1. No, But my last girlfriend says I look good in tight jeans.[;)]

2. I could also shoot myself in the head…but I’m not gunna.

ROFL!!!

When you know when you are gonna be here, Let me know, I will hook you up with all the cool watching spots around here.

[Murphy_Siding]

Chad,

1- Do you look good in a shawl ?

2- U CUD SAVE GAS AND CLICK ON THE BELOW WEB SITE TO VIEW TRAIN PIXS

http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg

[:o)][:P][:D]

Is the answer to the first trivia question YES? And the second one NO?[:o)]

1. No, But my last girlfriend says I look good in tight jeans.[;)]

2. I could also shoot myself in the head…but I’m not gunna.

We could play the Wyoming where is it game. You just post a picture of yourself in the tight-fitting shawl and a train in the background. We’ll try to guess the location.[;)]

[miniwyo]

But Murphy, you know that only me , you and a few other people on this forum will get this any of theese. Although it would be nice to get a few ones from this part of the west that I actually get to guess. [:P]

[nanaimo73]

1. No, But my last girlfriend says I look good in tight jeans.[;)]

I can understand why you took her away from Nick Lachey, but why did you dump her ?

Did she tell you to wash your dirty Southern Pacific T-shirts ?

Stay out of Colorado, Chris will whoop you good !

[Murphy_Siding]

But Murphy, you know that only me , you and a few other people on this forum will get this any of theese. Although it would be nice to get a few ones from this part of the west that I actually get to guess. [:P]

Rats! So you can see right through my plan?[;)]

[Anonymous]

My suggestion is to invest in the Delorme Atlas and Gazateer or other map w/ at least that level of detail. To really see Sherman Hill, you’re going to need to get off of the asphalt and onto some of the public gravel roads. There is a lot you can see, but you need a good map. Here’s one - try to find the monument to the Ames Brothers (earlier financiers of the UP -and founders of Ames Hardware) - not too far from Tie Siding - it was in a commercial recently - possibly for an SUV, but I’ll bet 1 in 100,000 viewers knew what that stone obelisk was. Also, the Tie siding post office is an interesting stop. About 15 yrs back, I walked back to the Hermosa Tunnel, but that was in back before there was quite such tight security. Bit of a hike, but got one decent shot there. That is one of my favorite railfan places of all.

http://wyoshpo.state.wy.us/ames.htm

–Stack

(PS: and now for your dose of nearly useless trivia… I’ve always wondered how Cheyenne ended up in Laramie County - while Laramie is in Albany County. Seems odd.