EBAY'S Newest rules

It might come as a surprise to those in Kentucky, but not everyone in the bay area works for eBay. I’ve bought and sold on eBay a couple of hundered times. No other conenction. It’s not perfect, but it works. It’s the biggest market out there for pre-owned and out of production HO stuff, so I use it.

You don’t have to.

Right. You’re not charging excessive S&H to increase your profit by avoid paying eBay fees – you’re just misunderstood.

In any case, got nothing to do with train stuff.

I don’t see how that can be except on things that cost a dollar or two. But I’m not the expert some are at gaming eBay fees.

Yeah, my Intel stock is down about the same amount. I’m just sure its due to eBay not taking money orders.

I do get it. eBay doesn’t let you play the game you want to with S&H and you’re ticked off. Doesn’t mean eBay doesn’t work fine for others. Now that I understand your axe to grind I won’t waste any more of your time. Rave on, brother.

Alco … we do not make a profit on S&H.

Ebay makes more on its fees on many of our items than my wife makes selling them. Their fees are excessive.

She has helped several friends start with ebay, and has done a lot to foster more business for ebay. also, she invested in the company.

In return they act like bullies and lie to her. There have been other listings cancelled for false reasons not pertaining to S&H.

Stop jumping to conclusions.

Again, ebay needs competition.

Many other model railroaders have expressed disatisfaction with ebay.

I’m posting this to benefit other model railroaders who may need to buy and sell used trains.

Ebay has created problems for itself, its customers, and its investors.

(I invest in railroads. Returns are significant for railroads in recent years.)

I would like to see constructive suggestions instead of jugmental remarks.

Ok, here’s an example…checked out some cool out of production Ortner cars tosay on e-Bay, reasonable price at $30 bucks…then you go in and they want $14 for shipping and handling! Ridiculous. As a buyer, I’m glad E-bay is creating some standards for shipping cost gouging.

This has been a long-time method os sellers to circumvent some of ebay’s final value fees. The seller really wants $40 for the item with $4 to ship, but by wording it that way, they save the final value fees on that $10. No matter how it’s worded, you are still going to pay $44 to that seller. Asian electronics sellers are great for this - I’ve bought LEDs for $1.00 for 100, but the shipping was $13.75 … still a good deal IMHO, but they are only paying final value fees on the one dollar. These are the things ebay will be attempting to stop.

Ultimately, we will see shipping costs come down to what they should be, BUT - the price of the item itself will go up even more as the seller attempts to compensate also for the increased fees.

Mark.

From my perspective, eBay has become increasingly user-unfriendly for years now.

I used to use eBay to sell off unneeded items to someone who might have a use for them. Now I just put the stuff on the front lawn with a sign that says, “Free.”

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Put me in that category as well. I have over 300 E-bay purchases and do not do business with any seller that does not take PayPal. It is the only way to go.

“LOOK” “BID” “BUY” “PAY” all from the old Puter, then just wait for the postman.

Thats my [2c] worth and just try and get a commission on that !!!

My only beef is with a few sellers who block our bids from Canada. You people really need to get into the real world. I.O.W. “Get a LIfe” or at least learn how to check feedback.

Johnboy out…

Ebay is now insisting that sellers indicate cost of shipping(& handling?) Sellers must be very busy now seeing how they can increase their shipping costs by 80%. I just had a guy quote me $9.00 shipping to Canada and an identical item from another seller quoted $30.00, tell me there aren’t some dishonorable people on ebay.

I actually enjoy getting items online at the retailers or through my local hobby shops. Both of them are very good, first class and usually can get it for you. I cannot ask for any better.

When I learned to get OOP items direct using the stock numbers or factory numbers of the OOP item in question basically Ebay was out of consideration for me at that point. No longer any need to snipe or fight 10 people in the last 3 seconds on something that still costs 35 dollars somewhere with no tax.

Ebay for me has passed into memory. Im just glad I had a good run and good fortune finding homes for the train stuff.

I bet some of the gaming of the shipping charges would come down if they enforced their rules and did not take paypal fees for the shipping charges. I started using flat rate boxes from the post office because it let me just list the shipping cost right out. The boxes don’t cost me anything. I still take a small hit on shipping from paypal taking their cut for the transaction, even though it is broken out in their form. I can even see some sellers upping the cost of shipping a $1 for packing materials. I can live with that.

At first I was a bit disturbed by the whole no checks thing. But I am starting to come around. Using a credit card is not free to the retailer. They pay a fee plus a percentage of each charge. Lets the retailer get their money faster. They know right away the money is there. Same with Paypal.

I set up a Paypal account so I could take credit card payments. When I did the number of bids I got shot up. So did the final bid values. Ebay takes another $0.10. Same with Paypal. I am still ahead.

Still rubs me a little the wrong way that they are forbidding checks and money orders. Maybe they are tired of all the little old ladies and others who get ripped off when they get a money order for an extra $1000 and asking to send the difference back to them complaining all the time.

If your Paypal account gets hacked, exactly how is it different from getting your bank account hacked? Same problem. Same path to resolution. Don’t keep lots of money in it. Paypal pays interest on accounts with $250 or more in them. Not a lot, but comparable to the big bank savings account. And it is available for instant use. More online retailers are adding the Paypal option all the time. I’ve seen one post here, and just seeing the two subjects together may finally get me to buy his videos, now that I have so

I have been selling on Ebay for over 10 years; done more than 600 sales; 100% satisfaction rate.

The first two years I ran a hobby shop; the last 8 years I have been slowly selling off inventory after I closed the retail portion. I have no expectations of selling anything at big profits. Most times, I start items at $0.99, with no reserve, and let the auction take its course. I am happy if I get what I paid, wholesale. I ship everything USPS priority mail, with delivery confirmation.

I am not happy at the changes at ebay. I can live with the Paypal only, although I have accepted money orders in the past. My observation is that about 25% of folks who pay with a money order have to be prompted to send a money order; whereas most folks pay with Paypal quickly. As I use the USPS automated postal center; I have literally shipped items within an hour of an auction end because someone paid me via Paypal.

What gripes me is that I can no longer give accurate feedback to someone who stiffs me. I have had four buyers not pay me in the last year. I didn’t ship, but there is no way to warn other sellers. Yes, they get a “strike”, but I believe a honest feedback reflecting actual events is more fair to all parties involved.

Sellers pay all the fees on ebay. One can argue that buyers are paying the fees, because they are the ones paying for merchandise, but the fees are netted out of receipts going to the seller. For a seller, it doesn’t make much sense to sell an engine that costs $56.00 ($100 retail) in an auction for $50.00; netting about $44.00 after all the fees associated with Ebay and Paypal. That is assuming shipping costs are charged at actual cost. But wait, Ebay wants sellers to offer free shipping; so deduct another $8.00 for Priority Mail with delivery confirmation. Pretty raw deal. Yes, I know you can do a "Buy i

I emailed a vendor and they replied that EBAY can NOT refuse other methods of payment like money orders. They have a setting for an item “OTHER” “PICKUP ONLY”, its pretty obvious to me their pushing the paypal is their promoting the paypal. So often when you buy an item and it had paypal or money order set that to get to the money order setting you HAD to click away from the paypal default setting. The new setup is another rather forced way to promote PayPal and the vendors are not allowed to promote other pay methods. Buyers should contact the vendor if they will accept money orders. I reccomend for buyers if they might accept other payments to have pickup set so the buyer can bid without paypal. I recall trying to bid on an item and it refused me because I don’t have paypay setup, and I dont. I have no credit cards which is required for paypal. I don’t want the easiness of someone stealing a credit card number off of me. phooey.

Life may be full of runt sellers or buyers, but I had success with money orders.

I think its rather bad business practice what they have done.

dinwitty-States pretty clearly in the new rules that money orders and checks are ONLY permitted for high $$$ items like cars/boats/trailers/real estate.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html
(down towards bottom.)

Just another scam to make you use THEIR bank.They’ve lost my business…[xx(]

The last time I sold something to someone in Canada, it raised my fee by 8.00 because of the extra postage. There went 1/2 of my profit. Not to mention the extra b.s. paperwork at the post office. No more sales to Canada for me.

The last time I bought something from someone in Canada it cost me 10.50 for shipping for a 16.95 item. Why would I want to waste my money like that?

No more checks or money orders bothers me somewhat:

I guess you can’t stop progress.

Which has been cracked so many times it’s absolutely laughable!

I don’t know how much money your wife has invested in order to actually have any sort of leverage on ebay, but maybe just a well worded letter to the CEO or whoever is in charge to voice her concern might get the wheels moving in the right direction.

Remember the adage, “thems that own the company makes the rules”? Well, it applies. But since I don’t buy from vendors that don’t accept Paypal, it doesn’t affect me either.

Another money grubbing tactic of ebay is forcing sellers to use only one type of USPS mailing. I used the USPS site to see a 1 pound item sent to Canada by 1st class mail Int’l package is $4.76. Ebay (or the seller) now use Priority mail Int’l flat rate box and charge $15.00. Since when is a certified money order not a method of payment, seems most sellers prefer them as they are redeemable the same day. I will not buy from vendors that accept only paypal.

I find it kinda funny how some people think they are safe from stolen CC numbers, (I don’t use the cordless phones so I am safe), LOL, can you be that stupid???. If someone wants your CC number bad enough they will get it. It just takes some simply computer knowledge to get ANYTHING through the internet. What I like is people who say “Man I would never want a Methadone Clinic” put by my house. I wouldn’t want those herion addicts coming into my neighborhood. Can you think straight or what. People can’t be that stupid. Do you think when you go out with your wife the guy standing next to you in the line isn’t a Heroin junkie. Or when your kids go to a baseball game or something there is probably a 99% chance someone next to them is a drug addict. They are everywere. I know I went off of the subject but there is ways to get anything you need thruogh the internet. Wake up. [#offtopic][soapbox]

Mike

I’ve seen extensive threads over ebay on MANY forums lately, and I always get a chuckle out of all the posts by those who don’t know how to work the system !

Want a guaranteed way of protecting your financial information ? - simple … Open another checking account at your bank and keep the minimum funding in it - less than $100 usually. To be able to make and receive instant paypal payments, you need to have your paypal account linked to your credit card. Don’t want your credit card information on file at Paypal ? - simple … right after you create your account (or any time for that matter), call your bank and tell them you lost your credit card - the bank will cancel the card and issue a new one. As long as you don’t pay your paypal purchases through your credit card, Paypal never knows the card has been cancelled, you can still send and receive payments immediately.

As for ebay “forcing” you to use Paypal or “forcing” you to use a higher class of shipping - do any of you guys actually contact the seller ? Ebay cannot force you to use the methods of payment and shipping they give you. If you you and the seller / buyer agree offline to pay by check or money order, then that’s how you pay. You and the buyer / seller can also agree as to how you want to ship it as well - offline. If both of you agree, you could have it shipped by pack-mule if you want !

How has it come to be that everyone is so up in arms over these Ebay “rules” ? Granted, these rules are being made to give the buyer / seller the utmost protection in their online transaction - which it does … but you are by no means bound by them ! Just remember, if you opt to deal with the buyer / seller outside of Ebay’s recommended practices, you won’t be as protected, if at all, in case something goes awry. I’ve had numerous sellers approximate the postage to Canada, put some stamps on the package and just toss it in the post box - with no customs d