Explorer 7.0 upgrade

A while back, some users were having troubles after doing an upgrade. Is explorer 7.0 the upgrade that interfered with some of the forum functions?

Sue

Good morning Sue!!! How are things out there in the Great Northwest, the land of Sasquatch? LOL

I had IE7 Beta 2 and RC1 version on my computer, testing it for MS as part of their Friends and Family program, to provide MS with realtime feedback to improve the product and give info on troubles and problems.

Originally, there was trouble on this forum because Trains.com went to new software at the same time that Beta IE7 hit the scene. I could use the forum OK, but I could not get any of the nice features to pop up when I hit reply. I could reply Ok, but no screen tool bar for font size, color, etc.

It started working OK as of December 1st, 2006 when Trains.com installed a patch. It has been working like a champ ever since.

So, why should I (or anyone else) “upgrade” to IE7? What good stuff do I get that I don’t have in IE6? What bad stuff do I get that I don’t have in IE6? And how much of a headache has this been for our friends like Bergie that have to manage forums and other on-line services in the face of never-ending “upgrades?”

I’m planning to be open-minded and analytical about this. In the past, my philosophy has been to let somebody else do the pathfinding on Microsoft upgrades, so that most of the problems can be identified and fixed before I climb on board. (My IT department at work has NOT upgraded yet, but they are notoriously conservative about things like this.) So, if I go to IE7 now, will I get a luxury ride in a Vista-dome, or will I find myself in an empty stock car with David Spade?

Dick, Things are great out here. I started back to work yesterday. It is healthier for me to work a couple of days per week than to have the better part of 2 weeks off.

It is good to hear that the upgrade has the bugs worked out. It was on my upgrade page and I seemed to remember that it caused some problems.

MrB, I tend to be conservative on changing what seems to work. So like you I wait and wait and wait.

Thanks guys, Sue

Good morning Mr B!!! And where were you 29 years ago today??? I know what I went through!!!

As for IE7 and testing for MS as an ordinary user ( non guru geek ), we have the chance to tell MS what we like, don’t like, make suggestions for adds, or changes, etc., so by NOT taking part, we would have to live with what gurus think is cool, but we might dislike very much as an ordinary user.

Now for IE7, is far more stable, the tool bar has been changed to work more like Google at other programs that users like, you can have multiple tabs open at once and switch back and forth, which is very handy when doing searches, etc. There are many other nice features Mr. B, so I would advise you or anyone else interested, to go to the MS site and do a test drive of IE7 to check out the features.

I can tell anyone how nice DCC is, but the best teacher is…try it yourself.

I upgraded to IE7 last year before the forum was updated to accommodate the new browser. For once, I would say that this is an upgrade well worth doing. 7 has been very stable on my 4 year old Dell notebook. The Tab function works every bit as well as the same feature on FireFox. For me the very best feature of all is the Zoom function. If a web page renders quite small on my wide screen I can just zoom in on it and optimize the display. Since I upgraded to 7 I have not used FireFox once. IMO 7 is far superior to IE6 and well worth trying out.

Well, Firefox is my preferred browser so don’t consider this an expert opinion, but from what I understand IE7 has “improved security”. However, I’m not sure what that’s worth, considering that IE over the years has generally been called to task for poor security. Hopefully something.

On the other hand, IE7 adds tabbed browsing, which I’ve used in Firefox for some time now and like quite a bit. I can’t say that I care very much for IE7’s implementation of tabbed browsing, but maybe that’s because I had already become accustomed to Firefox’s version before IE’s went golden. Also, I can’t say that I really care for the way they re-arranged the look and feel of IE7 as opposed to 6.

Try it. You can always back it out if you don’t like it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177

HTH,

Steve

Oh, am I on Jeopardy? Gee, Alex, uh, “What was the Blizzard of '78?”

I remember it well. I lived right by the B&M tracks in Concord, MA, then. It was a week of quiet and cross-country skiing. The governor (remember Mike Dukakis?) closed the whole dang state because he couldn’t get out his front door, and figured it was like that all the way from Kalamazoo to Timbuktoo. Fact is, most of us were dug out in a day, but we got a week of paid vacation (assuming that was our employer’s policy) out of it.

When installing IE7, it is duly noted that if you don’t like it, it can be uninstalled. I figured with THAT option, how could you go wrong … so I installed it. There were a few features about it that I really didn’t care for, and the fact I was going to have to organize all my favorites again ( it defaults everything to alphabetical order ) and re-customize my tool-bar. Not really being in the mood, more than anything, to do all that again, I elected to un-install it and go back to IE6.

… Bad move. In the process of deleting IE7, it also took with it some important dll’s that my other programs required to function. The connection to my external hard-drive was lost, the connection for my camera input wouldn’t work, it left behind a few operating features I had no use for and totally re-configured my favorites on IE6 that I spent so much time organizing.

Ultimately, looking back on MY experience, if you load it up - keep it, configure it and learn to use it. I spent more time getting my computer back to “normal” than I would have organizing the new IE7.

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it !!!

Mark.

Ditto. One thing that seems to have been included is an anti-phishing philter (er… filter). At least, I had never realized its presence prior to just a few days ago when a little icon began to sparkle in my system tray at lower right. It does it every time a page is loaded or refreshed. It adds to the time it takes to to these updates and new pages, which is a bit of an annoyance, but I guess I can live with that if I can have confidence that the anti-phishing algorithm is worth a pinch of you-know-what.

I upgraded and 2 hours later, I reverted it back to the previous version. I just hate it. Plus it doesn’t have the ‘floating mini-menu bar’ anymore…so extra step to save photos and you can’t keep some of the copy-protected photos anymore. I don’t know, just don’t like it and my bro who’s a qualified MS SPecialist says if I don’t like IE7 then I won’t like Vista so I am just going to wait for a while…but these auto-update thing keeps popping up and want me to upgrae to IE7 which is annoying…I think it interferes with your ‘decision-making’ ability too much and too much graphic interface…I prefer my old menus and I do whatever I tell my browser to do not the other way round. I think it’s just one step closer for MS to have total control of your PC.

Right ON Mr B…and how could anyone forget Mike Dukakis with his Blue sweater that he wore for the entire week!!! LOL We were not dug out for an entire week! I live one town west of Worcester, up in the central hills, we received 34" of drifted snow. When the plows didn’t come after day 4, the neighbors started snowblowing paths down the street to each others house so that we could help each other if needed, share food, and look after several retired couples in their homes. The plows arrived one week after the storm hit. We walked about 4 miles on day 5 to get food supplies, we were tired of water and can food. Ahhhh those were the days !!! Rear wheel drive cars that couldn’t get out of their own way !!

Well said! If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it! Same thing when I got my new laptop and it tells me to try the new Office 2003 for free for 2 months and I thought what the heck. Only I know when it expires, I can’t get rid of it! It want me to spend hundreds to buy a full version! All emails, documents etc etc cannot function in the older version and cannot go back to older version! Called MS and they told me the only way to buy a brand new full version! It’s definitely a trap! So end up using the ‘restore’ feature to try to get back to before installing the darn thing. I am back but it also messd up somethings like any programme that I installed after that wouldn’t run from the Start menu. I just can’t be bothered anymore, ran them directly from shortcut on the desktop.

I don’t trust MS anymore…anything they say it’s free will cost you heaps later on!

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When installing IE7, it is duly noted that if you don’t like it, it can be uninstalled. I figured with THAT option, how could you go wrong … so I installed it. There were a few features about it that I really didn’t care for, and the fact I was going to have to organize all my favorites again ( it defaults everything to alphabetical order ) and re-customize my tool-bar. Not really being in the mood, more than anything, to do all that again, I elected to un-install it and go back to IE6.

… Bad move. In the process of deleting IE7, it also took with it some important dll’s that my other programs required to function. The connection to my external hard-drive was lost, the connection for my camera input wouldn’t work, it left behind a few operating features I had no use for and totally re-configured my favorites on IE6 that I spent so much time organizing.

Ultimately, looking back on MY experience, if you load it up - keep it, configure it and learn to use it. I spent more time getting my

Here is a link to get a handy little add-on for you Firefox browser users who’ve made the decision to switch rather than fight: Firefox IE tab. You can use it for those occasional websites you might run across that will only work using IE.