Classic!
All I can say for Amtrak is that each bedroom has a shower.
I don’t think they inspect both sides of an employees hands,maybe they do?
Everyone should have had that experience of a Century trip once in their lifetime. It truly was a National Institutuon.
It cannot be recreated ever as it was.
Unless you have a Holodeck
Probably if you can afford it, and I am not counting on that, the luxury and service of VIA’s prestege class on the Canadian probably matches that on the old Century or Super Chief. Missing, however at this moment, it seems, is the commitment to on-time performance.
I rode the Century several times, including the period when coaches had been added. First time was in 1959, NY - Chicago, return on the Broadway as far as Philly. Service, food, puncutality of both trains at the time was excellent. Shoes shined, of course, and also had my pants pressed on the Century. But the kind of gleam and shine one still observed, even years later, on both the El Cap and the Super Chief, had faded, a bit more on the Century than on the Broadway.
Track was smooth enough so sleep was not a problem. Did become a problem much later.
Yes, they did. The hands are one of the significant things patrons will see when being served, and dirt on the backs is just as bad for the appetite as dirt on the palms…
Funny thing: when I watched this film in the past, most of what struck me was all the African-American faces diligent and proud on this premier service. Yesterday what stuck out was precisely the arrogance in that hand-inspection scene.
Holodeck won’t do Lobster Newburg.
“Holodeck won’t do Lobster Newburg.”—Overmod
Well sure it does! You just say…“Computer-Lobster Newburg”
Of course Picard and Riker are always complaining about replicator food so I suppose it’s not the same.
In either case, it’s impossible, even on VIA’s Pretentious We Soak 'em and How Class , as the ambiance is not there. You need coal smoke, valve oil and steam, the whole darn NYC in full bloom from end to end.
Since it happened, it is captured in time somewhere, worlds within worlds, black holes, it’s all there somewhere, so there is a chance. We just have not discovered it yet but we will.
One thing I thought was overly pretentious - the 2 Sections of the train, on adjacent tracks both departing down the platform together ‘On Time’.
Yes, even with at least double rack all the way, I doubt that the NYC kept them parallel all the way.
Actually, I can see this – even support it – as a piece of customer-relations theatre. Who would want to see a ‘better’ section of this expensive premier train beating their train out of the station? Better to have the sections ‘leave’ together, then take up some sequential order once safely in the dark under Park Avenue.
More to the point: have the sections ostentatiously ARRIVE together on parallel tracks, so the underlying service premise – that there’s just one huge Twentieth Century Limited that has to be split only for operation, but departs from and arrives at its termini ‘on the advertised’ – can be supported there, too.
You wouldn’t need this on the ‘lesser’ Great Steel Fleet trains, or the ones that ran in multiple sections as close as the signals would permit as far into the terminal plant as possible. But for the Century? I can see it. (And the two trains could share one red carpet…)
As a part of theatre I understand it. As a part of real world railroading, it is preposterous.
Thoroughly agreed. But how many of the people riding that train actually cared about the real-world railroading ‘behind the scenes’? They wanted the meal, the amenities, a good night’s sleep, a reliable arrival the next morning. All the things we find interesting or nostalgic they would have regarded as just ‘the means’.
And the chance to be in a movie wasn’t so bad either. Especially a talkie! [:D]
It would seem odd to me to have a second section running at the same time as the first. Running multiple sections was usually done at 10 min. intervals. During the heyday of passenger travel, multiple sections were pretty normal. The Commodore Vanderbilt had a section that left early so often that it eventually became it’s own train - the Advance Commodore Vanderbilt. Not sure about the 20th Century, but I know during WW2 Great Northern’s Empire Builder sometimes ran in seven full sections.
When the Century was a heavyweight train, extra sections could be made up by simply drawing on the Pullman pool. Once it became a lightweight streamliner, there were occasions when a second section was operated, but no more than one second section. Whereas I read that on one day in the 1920s seven sections were run Chicago - NYC-GCT.
Guess maybe the two sections could depart GCT together and run side by side for some miles, and they could arrive GCT side by side, but if they both stopped Englewood would look pretty silly for the two sections to arrive Chicago together. First one would have to dawdle along, waiting for the second.
Yes I’ve read of the famous 7 sections to the Century, but how the heck did they find the personnel to staff this. There was special training and standards for the Century. Also, locomotives, engineers and fireman and non Pullman equipment.
Now 7 sections of the Empire Builder during WWII is stunning…how did they pull that off, personnel and equipment wise, not to mention that the Great Northern was not a 4 track dedicated passenger and freight only mains. That’s well over an hour of track time for what is really just one train on the timetable. How do you logistically put together all that coal, locomotives, commissary food, the list goes on and on not to mention run a viable railroad in the meantime.
I really wish we had some good war time accounts of the nitty gritty of the Herculean and stellar effort achieved by the railroads during WWII, not the usual pap about ladies wiping down the locomotives stuff. There was a lot lot more to it by everyone involved,.
Companies up through the middle to late 1970’s didn’t control their manpower as closely as they do these days (not having to guarantee Extra Boards a living wage, helped in keeping many people on the boards - just thirsting for work). With the advent of computers and job guarantees companies have slashed their workforces to at or slightly below the number of employees they actually need. Under the ‘old ways’ of handling manpower is was relatively easy to come up with sufficient qualified bodies (did I mention that the HOS for operating personnel was 16 hours then, instead of 12 today - as has been mentioned in another thread, enforcement of laws in times gone by was not as strident as it is these days. So under these conditions, staffing for extra sections was generally available; also with advance reservations it would be known, well in advance, when thes
And, with the large pool of available sleepers, there was little, if any, problem with building additional sections of trains.