Fool Proof beginers wagons

Why is it I cannot find a drawing for a simple beginners wagon to scratch build.
All the drawings I have seen are or seem to aimed at the master craftsman
whatever happend too the rolling stock a beginer could scratch build.[?]

John, tke a trip over to “Steam in The Garden”, (excellent web site,btw) and then go to the articles section. You will find a piece on Building a simple Goods Wagon. This should fit the bill and I fully intend on using this as a basis of several cars on my Garden RR.

John,
Up until mid 90s GR mag used to do an article every issue on simple projects, mostly aimed at the kids, lots of them included easy scratch built wagons. Maybe we could lean on Rene or Mark to make these articles available in electronic form here on the GR URL?
John, if not, you know how to contact me, I have most of the old GR issues except for 5 '94 issues so I’ll scan any plans you want.
Also some of the pull-out plans are applicable for the novice and I and Mark have a bunch of those too.

Hi Phil
have contacted you privatly and agree that pressure should be bought too bear to get simple wagon projects too where they can be found.
If I felt up to constructing a locomotive there is a wealth of information out there on the web but nothing on rollingstock and a locomotive is not much use without something to haul.
if a person is not confident where wagon construction is concerned they have no hope of building a locomotive.
regards John

Hi
Entered steam in the garden on a web search and got that many links I didn’t know where to start [:(] can you be a bit more specific please
regards John

John, go back and simply follow the directions I gave you…The key here is “Simple Goods Wagon”.

Hi Slick
Found it on Steam in Garden site link apears to be broken have tried on a couple of ocasions to get at it but cannot.
regards John

Yes, I’m sorry this has turned out to be a 'blind link" at the moment. With Luck, the “Florida Live Steamers” site will be back up, soon. John, take a look at the Yahoo site 16mm Narrow gauge (may not be exact) or the 16mm sites, there are some good plans to be had…

Hi slick
the 16mm ngm news group are trying too help already but as yet havn’t found anything suitable for 45mm on the beginers market so to speak so far all 32mm which is the more common gauge for them and won’t make the gauge increase with out looking yuk!
I did find one in an old MR (US) mag but i only need 4 or so log cars for my small line
that is so simple it dosen’t even make the grade as a beginers freight car and is completly different to a proper freight car.
regards John

Quite true about the 32mm aspect, and as far as I can tell mostly European or British. Check out “Sidestreet Banner Works”, I think they may have suitable plans for sale…

Hi slick
All ready checked that avenue the ones that are of use are OOP
All is not lost on that front I found out an out of town friend of mine collects GR why i dont know he never gets beyond sketches on paper and doesn’t seem that interested in garden railways.
That aside he is looking through his collection for the small stuff and a couple of others that where of interest
As they could easaly be converted too my line basicaly diferent axel boxes and total absence of brakes other than UK or Aussie style hand brakes for freight stock and vacume brakes for passanger stock.
Trust me to pick a theme where I have too build most of it and cannot find the basics so
I can get on with it well have a good try at it at least.
regards John

John, how goes the goods wagons? I also find myself at a loss for certain hardware, journals, trucks, ect. I will have to fudge some of the details for the time being, working with wood to produce usable hardware will be a worthy challenge. (not to mention a royal pain in the (pick a body part) ). I’ll be spending much time at rumage sale hoping to pick up some use LGB cars and wagons, with luck I’ll manage a few good deals.

Hi slick1
After an E- talk with the Workshop Manager of theToenail Rridge Short line
it looks like a 4wh ore car is the way too go have aquired suitable axle boxes and Buffer type couplings which are suitable for my line and brass shapes for strapping ect
Am waiting for drawing and a few tips to turn up in the post so I can then chase down the wood right sized pop studs for break wheels.
Have turned up a thing called a “T” pin, which with a small bit of brass tube and a BA washer would make ideal “T” shaped door handles for passanger coaches when I feel up to having a go at one of those.
Thinking of an improved version of Tony Birds box coaches for that got all bar the first artical on those, but ore cars first so I can find out how to build a propper chassis
as that is the improvement.
regards John