I’d suspend the offending posters rather than the entire thread
I swear the way some guys want it, it’s going to be awful lonely in here.
I think it’s a matter of when the argument between two or three posters begins to take over a thread. It’s especially unhelpful to the thread if the argument is over something OT
We’ve all been there. Being put in the cooler seems to work other places pretty well
I don’t think it would be lonely, but if so, so what. What’s the big difference between nobody posting any content and only a few posting arguments about stuff nobody else cares about.
So you’d rather nuke the whole site than have the occasional argument?
Sounds weird, but whatever. Turn this place into trainorders. com (aka snoozefest).
Most of the arguments are usually in the prototype side. Although I do see a handful of model guys that normally don’t post over there jumping in when it gets a little spicy. Life’s too boring to always agree with everyone.
I just want to discuss model trains without a sidebar about the meaning of the word “some” getting the thread locked.
I have never had a problem with side conversations or conversation evolution, especially in threads that I start - it is conversation.
But sometimes enough is enough with the challenging of every little thing somebody says.
It my time on this forum, particularly in my very occasional visits to the TRAINS forum, some pretty ugly, untrue, unfounded things have been said about me and to me. In the worst case, based on some assumption, that I follow, or even care about what some groups of people believe are “secret code catch phrases” for certain beliefs or ideas. News flash, not everybody follows such nonsense. Many times what people say is exactly what they mean - no inside joke or hidden message.
Zugmann, I will be the first to admit, most of what you say goes right over my head. I seldom have any idea what you are talking about, and I really don’t care. Because I am not in your age group, I don’t follow popular culture trends, I lack any frame of reference for most of your comments.
I’m only here to talk about trains, mostly model trains and historical information about real trains.
I have no issue with people disagreeing about things. I disagree with stuff and people disagree with me on here all the time. I’m not a follower, I don’t do things just because others are doing that way, or because it’s “new”, or because someone else feels its better.
And some of the same people dropping hints about “some people should look in the mirror” are the ones who challenge me every time I state a strong opinion, which are just my choices and opinions, not a criticism of the alternative choices others make.
I’ve been building model trains and model train layouts since 1968, I don’t really care if others don’t like what I model or how I do it. But if you ask for opinions, I will share mine. 57 years of being privileged to learn from some truly great modelers, and gaining experience and skills regarding what works and what does not. And a decade of working in the model train industry.
Sheldon
Thats my favorite quote of the week. If this forum sold t shirts, that should be printed on one.
But I think you do care a little. Otherwise, you’d just move on. Don’t worry, I won’t tell.
You equated the lack of arguing with having a boring forum so it didn’t seem like you were talking about just occasional arguments
I think informatively discussing trains is interesting, as is my experience with about 98% of (MR) forum members over the past 15 years would indicate. Maybe a small minority have to argue to stay awake. I don’t know.
If the binary choice exists of only reading others’ OT arguments over factual minutia or having no forum at all , I have no preference because there is no difference the amount of interesting content I could read.
Not what I meant. I meant occasional.
How about this - I’d be fine if the MR side wants to be Super strict. Just keep it on that side. maybe one size fits all won’t work.
let me give you some idea here. crownafire wants rr content.
They remove posts due to lack of rr content.
But they have blinders on.
If I see another thread about a trucking recession, lack of truck parking, 70 year old TRUCKING company closes, I’m gonna scream. Locked, yeah, eventually fall off the bottom.
Just stop.
Another is safety. When I see something potentially dangerous, say why, the ex-spurts jump in and say it’s okay. We’ll see.
Relax my friend. Certain people will say ‘Not to look’.
Now I like trucking. I have been around and worked in the trucking business all my life apart from three years. (From born to three years of age.) I read such threads. Dare I comment? What and get insulted?
I part own a tram (trolley). Some say I should post about the restoration. Some say ‘NO. This Forum is about railroading’.
Oh there is more, but Nick wants feedback on improving the site.
I am off to help my granddaughter to extend her 0 gauge, American themed, garden layout. Do not expect any photographs. According to some, her railroad modelling is not welcome here.
The Garden stuff is a separate publication “Garden Railways Magazine”, to the left in the margin.
Where is here?
Where he doesn’t get his way all the time?
That’s exactly the kind of comment that causes issues.
Reread his comment. That’s how it came across to me. Very passive-aggressive.
“If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking.” General George S. Patton
That’s what Patton said, but it’s ironic since Patton demanded strict obedience to his orders which discouraged dissenting opinions of his junior officers.
I don’t think your characterization of super strict is valid.
It’s about cooling off emotions for the posters who hijack a OPs thread by arguing over OT minutia. Not even locking a thread. I’m miffed as to why you think that’s strict.
What you seem to be advocating is the absence of any moderation that keeps threads focused so that the arguers are free to use any thread to argue about anything.
You can have long conversations on a subject where the parties involved have a reasonable amount of knowledge of the subject at hand. Those people usually can see both sides of the discussion and will accept new knowledge, facts and other information from others as the discussion proceeds along. These chats can go on for a long time with no ill effects.
Emotions usually enter in to the picture once someone does not have enough knowledge to carry on in a rational manner but does not want to yield. This is when a moderator should step in and do his job.
You’re miffed because I shared my opinion?