How much of your rolling stock ( freight ) has your own logo and how much off line ?
Currently , I don’t have any freight cars lettered for My PDT , but once I get some I plan to have about 10% of my cars lettered for the PDT .
Can I ask why you picked 10% or so
My Toledo Erie Central, although not really needing any “home road” cars, may have a few in the future. I’ve been toying with the idea of creating a logo for the small urban corridor switching line. Right now the full extent of the home roster for the TEC are just an SW9 and a caboose
My HOn3 narrow gauge, Paradox Uravan and Placerville, (th’ PUP), will have about 30% of it own cars with its road name on them and the rest will be solely D&RGW and RGS rolling stock. There will be some custom outshopped cars, as well. Two or three engines (K-27 and C-19s), will have the PUP road name and, again, the rest of the motive power will be RGS and D&RGW (leased-rented or on property in delivery or haul out). What little back and forth passenger traffic will be handled by an RGS goose or on board the single custom built PUP combine caboose.
Wartime exigencies will force a certain amount of cross road leasing and foreign road engine presence on th’ PUP as it hauls critical “copper ore” or concentrates from Nucla, Uravan and other paradox valley mines as well as “honest to God copper ore” from other mines.
The layout is a work in progress. ~10% complete…HA! Is any road ever really complete?
The only outside world rail connection on the PUP is with the RGS in Placerville and by way of the RGS, the D&RGW in Durango or Ridgeway…it’s all narrow gauge only. The PUP is 99% freight by revenue and 90% of that is mineral ores and coal. Of the remaining 10% freight traffic, 95% of that is explosives and mining supplies and food stuffs for the mines. There are only 3 or 4 small towns on the PUP.
NOTE: The Manhattan Project forced a renaming of Uranium product during the war in order to conceal the nuclear nature of the bomb project from enemy spies. It was called “Copper” on all bills of lading and transport documents. Real copper products were referred to as “honest to God copper” often showing up as “HTGC product” on bills and transfer documents.
I do have a rather complete history written up on the PU&P anyone wishing to read it can start a conversation with me to get the word document.
Richard
My SummerSet Ry doesn’t own any cars since 98% of our traffic is inbound loads for either Slate Creek Industrial park or Riverview Industrial Park…
When a shipper request a empty car we use Railbox boxcars,UTLX or GATX tank cars, ACF covered hoppers and Railgon…
I chose 10% because I have 2 interchanges with the outside world and being a shortline in the 1970’s , most of the home road cars would be box cars taking advantageof the per diem other shortlines were doing at the time . Only a few of the customers on my layout receive box cars so 10% seemed liked a reasonable number
The plan right now if for two transfer cabooses, some 5 Grain Box cars, 3 standard AAR box cars, some 4 USRA composite drop bottom gondolas.
As the layout stands my route interchanges with 4 different class 1’s and a Class 2. I have the MILW to the south, CNW in the middle, SOO and GBW at the top. Technically I could throw in another interchange with the CNW, but that seems like overkill.
As of right now, the majority of my rolling stock is MILW as that’s were most of the traffic heads after loading, the GBW/SOO gets most of the cold traffic, with CNW getting the stone traffic, and some coal traffic. As it breaks down, Reefers, cold Box cars and some grain cars are labeled SOO/GBW with one ex Milw express reefer, Box car traffic is mostly 50% Milw with the rest being a mix of local and regional roads. Flat car traffic is a total hodgepodge. Gondola traffic is mostly home road with GN (I got them cheap). Hopper traffic is mostly Milw (15 cars), GN (9 cars), SOO (3 cars) & 5 cars (of mixed roads). And the caviet to the reefers is my wife’s billboard collection. Those get run pretty much without regard to region. Partly to playcate the powers that be, and partly because they do add some disruption to tuscun, black, maroon, and more black.
To “re-summarize” some of the preceding thoughts…
[1] What amount of the traffic, specifically meaning the industries, on the free-lanced layout, are within operations (geographic) scope of the primary free-lanced road-name?
[2] Has a comprehensive operations rationale been determined?
[3] What railroads will interchange with each other to help determine logos?
[4] Operations types? Freight only? Passenger only? Freight & Passenger?
Example – Passenger Rationale: CR&T will have local PCC traction (passenger) in the Community of Conemaugh on the lower layout level, and; in a neighboring City of Nittany located on the upper layout level, a CR&T subway division. There is a CR&T “connecting route” between each town powered by Doodlebug and/or RDC.
Pennsylvania Railroad, headquartered on the upper layout level, will run GG1 passenger service, plus; freight operations, on both levels – Pennsy consists comes & goes “from the world beyond” the layout.
Traction is locomotive-centric (with its specific logos) vs. diverse freight operations.
Example – Freight Rationale: CR&T will have freight operations limited to local industry and in-and-out operations from interchanging with (only on the lower layout level) with CR&T markings limited to a handful of freight cars. Baltimore & Ohio has a freight spur into the region on t
At last count, home road freight cars numbered 136, while off-line cars were at 186. Both numbers have risen somewhat recently. I have two modelled interchanges, involving four prototype roads, so off-line cars are from all over North America, with Canadian and northeastern roads predominating.
Wayne
We are in between freelance and full prototype in that we have an unrealistic matching of geographic areas/industries–but fun for us. In this case all of our cars are marked for fallen flags or current class 1s. Hope that answers your question.
Richard
At any given time, about 70% of the freight rolling stock on the freelance Tomikawa Tani Tetsudo is home road stock, and displays the `Tomi Maru’ badge (Tomi and Kawa kanji inside a circle) above the reporting marks. The other 30% are Japan National Railways cars - but you’ll have to look closely to find the ownership data (it’s in kanji about 75mm high on the left ends of the side sills)
All inbound loads arrive in JNR cars. Loose coal is loaded into JNR cars. The TTT interchanges unit trains with TTT badges (they all go to either of two places, both in the netherworld of hidden staging.) TTT cars for ladings other than coal stay on home rails.
(The TTT is 13.7 KM from the interchange to the larger of the two collieries, and is effectively immune to highway competition. The parallel ‘road’ is two ruts in the mud, effectively impassable to cargo vehicles. The two intermediate towns receive and ship everything by rail.)
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Right now I’m planning around half home-road, half interchange. Most of the home road is passenger and what I’m calling faux-narrow-gauge, in that it’s equipment that should probably be narrow gauge but is on standard track. Most of that serves logging and either mining or quarrying in the region (haven’t decided which yet). Most of the interchange cars will be from either the Milwaukee Road or Chicago North Western, or perhaps other regional lines if I can find any that were still alive in my era.
Well I started this thread because when I started out 100% of my freight and passenger was Home road
I thought a string of all the same coal cars etc would look sharp
Got very boring and I know unrealistic so I now have a mix of about 60-70% t0 40-30% for my freight
Of course passenger is still 100%
The reason I asked is because on You Tube you frequently see engines and caboose in the home road but hardly any of the cars
Hi…no freight cars done up yet for my road…except for my work train.
However here is a shot or two of my locos so far.
One of three GP30`s
One of three SD45`s to be painted into the Birdsboro & Reading paint scheme.
Roster shot of GP30`s.
I’m thinking that about 20% are painted in my railroads colours…mostly covered hoppers.