no doubt that Operation Lifesaver will use this to there benifit. Does anyone know about the crossing and how often it is used by locals beach goers and speed of trains? Last stat was that over 266 people took there life on freight and passenger tracks according to the FRA…I dont have a stat for Transit yet.
ruled a suicide?? The kid is living the dream of every young man that plays ball…and so soon was there a camera on front of engine?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/us/high-school-student-killed-by-train-trnd/index.html
Until you are in their body and in their head you have no idea of how they view their life. Your version of a dream life, may be their version of the 7th level of Hell.
This is a sad story. You are completely correct, Balt. No one knows what some people think and experience, and their outward lives may not show what is really going on.
Very sad.
Until you’ve walked in a man’s shoes …
Neither railroad is within a mile of the beach. FEC was closer than SCL out by US-441. (U of Cincinnati had me there as a co-op ages ago(Electoliner understands this with UC) … At that time, ages ago, FEC’s R/W was incredibly clean, partially because of the morons trying to bomb the railroad out of existance because it defied the unions)…Newsworkers failed in the detail department here in the who and where department.
Other news sources call it FEC near 10th & Dixie Hwy. The kid had mental health issues and there already were a rash of train vs. pedestrians/ cyclists in the area this year.
I can attest that there were times in my life, only once when visiting Israel, but several times in the USA, when I seriously considered suicide. But I did not give any outward indication to anyone, and the problems that led to such consideration, and certainly their extent, were almost entirely unknown to people who knew me at the time, especially close family members.
On each occasion, a thought came as to possible routs to solve the problems and a good reason to continue to live.
I cannot say that similar serious problems have not come to me in Israel. But the support system of frieinds is far closer, faith stronger, and my previous experiences in handling serious problems give more hope and more answers.
I wish I had known and could have helped this youngster.
Strong feelings of helplessness and hopelessness are predictors of suicide along with ideation, means, availability and plan. People who attempt and later are counseled often lack (at the the time at least) good life problem solving skills. The latter should be an important element in their therapy.
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ruled a suicide?? The kid is living the dream of every young man that plays ball…and so soon was there a camera on front of engine?
“…Until you are in their body and in their head you have no idea of how they view their life. Your version of a dream life, may be their version of the 7th level of Hell…”
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Also, being a football player - who knows how many concussions he’s sustained over the years and what damage those have done to him.
This is an area that only recently has gotten the attention it needs to get. This could well mean that this young man had, indeed, suffered some concussions in the past - including some that weren’t recognized (or were simply ignored) by the coaches and others.
As noted, not everyone has the ability to recognize and deal with such situations - and sometimes they’re too proud to admit to a problem. It’s an issue the fire service (which has it’s share of PTSD and suicides) is grappling with.
I don’t know the level of drug testing for PED’s that happens in High School these days - PED’s have also been known to be related to ‘clouded’ thought processes in their users.
30+ years ago - I used to use a local High School’s track for my personal exercise area. I would see the football players hitting the weight room every day that school was open, and even when school was closed the coach made arrangements so that the players could access the weight room. This particular school did not field ‘elite teams’ in the state. Better performance through chemistry is a most effective lure for kids with big dreams, who just know they will live forever despite anything they put in the bodies.
A lot of wild speculation beyond what is actually known.
Im confused, Sam. What are you referring to in the second paragraph?
Not sure why the papers find it so important to report that detail…even if it is true. It accomplishes nothing of a news worthy nature and only piles shame on the perp and their survivors.
One would think that after the first hundred or so in a reporter’s career, the novelty would finally wear off.
It’s sad that this kid gave up so much, so early in his life, for whatever reason. But by putting this stain on his legacy, the media only makes things worse.
Considering the geographic location of the incident, I view that comment was placed with racist intent, without using the N word. The subtle form of racism in that more than likely that assessment would not have been published had the deceased been white.
Supposedly the official “filter” that my local paper uses, if the departed acted in their own home, then the cause is not reported. But if they act in a public place, then all the news that’s fit to print rules the moment.
Oddly, the debate currently making the local rounds centers on where those low-rent residential motels fall on that spectrum.
it’s really sad that people have to suffer so, and all the worse that the media piles it even deeper.
Convicted and Balt, I agree with both of you; and this subject to me brings up a broader point:
Do we need to know if it was foul play? Do we need to know if it was an accident?
There are people who do need to know these things: cops, safety officials, etc.
But is every death that is not from illness or old age really something that needs to be reported to the general public?
I don’t know what I think, frankly. Just food for thought. But sometimes I do feel that a lot of this is unnecessary. I mean, if there is a dangerous grade crossing, probably it’s good for the public to know someone died there again, to reinforce the idea that motorists must use more care.
But say there’s been gang-related shooting with no clear good guys or bad guys? How does it benefit the public to even know? Sometimes death stories just seem like easy stories. I’d rather read a story about an inner-city priest who is finding ways to keep kids out of gangs.
I agree with all three of you, Convicted, Balt and Lithonia. That’s what I actually meant before.
Why shame his family? Maybe the reporting shows a racist bias. And some of the comments on here have been uninformed, pure speculation. Death from a train accident is tragic, period.
I find myself in the unusual situation of defending “The Media.”
A young athletic man is sadly dead. That’s not normal. People are going to know he’s dead. So what do you want, a bunch of rumors?
The public health officials need to look in t