Does anyone know anything about this particular kit?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3022
I want to know if the rail car shed can be placed on the other side. The reason for this is that with my track setup it would need to be on the other side or I can’t use this kit.
Also, I don’t see anywhere what type of glue or bonding agents are needed so does anyone know what all would be necessary for this kit to go together?
I don’t understand what you mean by placing the railcar shed on the other side. The picture is shown with the unloading shed on the side facing the camera/ viewer and the other side does not show. Can’t you just turn the building around so the shed aligns with the track?
OR do you mean that you want the “shed” toward the end of the complex with the round silos? I don’t know if this kit would allow that- but it would be aproblem in the real (prototype) world. The shed actually houses an under-track grain dump. Some dumps may just have undertrack auger or conveyor to remove grain dropped from covered hoppers. However, I have seen one with a “car-picker-upper” from the days when grain was carried in boxcars. The thing picks the car up, rocks it and tumps it back and forth to dump out the grain from a non-self-unloading car. In any case, the grain comes out under the car and needs to be carried up to drop into silos. The “buckets” that carry the grain up are in the square part of the complex, the headhouse. That is the actual ELEVATOR*. It carries it UP.* At the top of the headhouse are gates etc. that allow grain to flow by conveyors to a selected silo. When grain is removed from the elevator to go to another railcar, a truck or a ship, it comes out the bottom of a silo and goes by ground lever or underground conveyor back to the headhouse to be carried up and routed to outgoing delivery spouts.
I believe this is a styrene plastic kit. Liquid plastic cement such as Tenax or Plastruct Plastic Weld cement applied with a brush or syringe is usually best.
Note relation of headhouse/ silos and grain dump structure in a BIG elevator.
I’ll answer your second question first: I’ve used Testors Model Master plastic cement for many of my Walthers Cornerstone structure kits and been pleased with the results. The needle applicator lets you direct it into tight places, yet it doesn’t evaporate on contact like some other liquid glues.
As for putting the car shed on the other side: I don’t have that kit, so I can’t really say. But if the opposite wall is similar to what the catalogue pic shows, you could probably do it with some slight modification to the shed roof - you would need to make a mirror image of it along the edge that rests against the silos and the elevator building. Easy to do with Evergreen sheet styrene (available at most hobby shops).
Thanks for the replies.
Excuse my ignorance here but the problem would more than likely be resolved if I could get an answer to this.
Is the car shed open on both ends? If so I could simply turn the building around like leighant suggested.
Thank you.
Yes.
I am 99% sure you can put the shed on the other side. I have the Valley Cement plant which appears to be made up of the same silos and shed and the shed can move from one side to the other, or up and down the length of silo if you added more.
Are you essentially needing the silos to go on the other side of the main elevator building relative to where the track is (i.e the kit photo shows the silos to the right, and you need them on the left)?
If so, that modification can be done very easily. If you reverse the side walls on the main elevator structure, the doors and windows line up so the silos can head the other direction, effectively reversing the orientation of the track entering the structure. This is the configuration of the kit as I built it, since I needed the track on the opposite side from what the instructions show. You can modify the loading shed so it still overlaps the silos, or leave it as-is and allow it to protrude from the right of the building. That arrangement doesn’t look “wrong” so there is no need to modify the shed unless you really want to.
Solvent cement is my favorite for this type of kit. Testors brand gives a lot of working time, while faster ones like Tenax 7-R or Ambroid Pro-Weld are helpful if you want to work more quickly. Large plastic parts like those in the Walthers structure kits can warp easily, and fast acting cements are a big help for me to avoid having to hold the joint for several minutes while I wait for something like Testors.
There’s that term “elevator” again, do you have an elevator or terminal? elevators are the tall wooden structures in a lot of small towns, terminals or mills are usually large and concrete and located in larger cities, , Many elevators are now demolished as railway lines closed and trucks and some trains haul grain to larger terminals.
Depends on the area modeled perhaps. In most of the rural West that I’m familiar with, the typical surviving elevator is a concrete structure like the Walthers ADM kit, and/or a collection of metal bins - sometimes with an adjacent older wooden structure (most likely covered in corrugated siding by now) housing conveyors instead of them being in a concrete tower or freestanding. Trucks deliver grain to one side of the complex, and railcars are loaded on the other. The Walthers ADM kit is set up for that type of situation, and would require some modification to turn it into a credible major terminal.
Or tall concrete structures in a lot of small towns.
Dimmit, TX
Oldham County, TX
Kiowa, KS
!(http://www.walkersquawker.net/images/Blasting through Kiowa small.JPG)
… and hundreds, probably thousands, of others
I just built an ADM elevator a handful of months ago. It’s possible to swap the walls around to get the rail and truck sheds on the opposite sides from what is shown in the instructions. No modification is necessary.
You can also leave off the rail shed for an open air loadout, too.
Excellent information from you all! Thank you so much for the kind help!
I see the item is currently for sale at Walthers. I’ve asked my dealer to order or hold one for me so I can go pick it up next week.
Again, thank you all! Happy railroading!
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Say what you will. Place it where it best suits your needs.
Jimmy
I agree. I didn’t use mine when I built the ADM kit, but my version represents neither a grain elevator nor a grain terminal.
It did, however, make a handy coal-dump shed at this little power plant down the tracks a way:
Wayne
I have it and I placed the shed on the opposite side then shown in the photo.
Buy it now. I do N scale and had to wait 2 years after I decided I wanted one before Walthers re did it.
I just put that kit together a few months ago and the loading shed can go on either side but you have to watch how you glue your side walls since each wall has specific holes, one side has holes for the truck loading shed and the other for the rail side, the chutes are different sizes for each particular side. One of the sides also has a large door with a hoist arm sticking out. I actually received a kit that had an error in which I did not have a pre-drilled hole on the rail shed side for the grain chute that comes into the top of it. You may possibly run into that problem but if you know how to operate a drill I’m sure you’ll manage lol! Its a very nice kit and it looks really good if you add some surge bins or other types of storage facilities! Happy Railroading!
One tip I will give you, you may need to add a foundation under the hopper shed. Few of my hoppers would catch the shed and the engine pushed the whole building.
Here’s mine.
Cuda Ken
Excellent information! Thank you all so much! The photos provided by some of you too look like great scenes!
Unfortunately, I tried contacting my dealer and he said that he doesn’t have any and now Walther’s is out of stock. Looks like I’ll be looking at eBay because I definitely want one after reading all of the information shared here.