Heavyweight Passenger Car Vents.

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Greetings all,

I have searched a good while for this and maybe I’m using the wrong search words. I would like to find dimensions and/or drawings for the Garland type vents and 10" fan boxes used on heavyweight Pullman cars. These vents and fans were in the clerestory part of the roof. My plan is to carve some strip styrene to the proper shape and size.

I am doing a Wabash heavyweight parlor-observation car. These vents appear on the Pennsy “Queen Mary”, Wabash “City Of…”, and NYC 30-Conrail #10 cars. I know the vents were used on more cars than this but I am listing these as an example because the cars are generally similar type 3957 Pullmans.

I found a Pullman site but it was massive and I could not find the specific details.

All help for roof details is certainly appreciated.

Thank you,

Bob L.

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There are various passenger car details to be found here:

bethlehemcarworks.com

…including Garland and box vents.

Wayne

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Wayne,

I have seen the ad for Bethlehem. Please correct me if I’m wrong but those are all HO. I’m crazy enough to try it in N-Scale. That’s why I am looking for blueprints/dimensions. My goal is to do better than what is on my Rivarossi heavyweights. I could buy a set for a pattern and scale them down. I’m still hoping for dimensions.

Thank you,

Bob

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If you can locate an early 50s car builders cyclopedia it contains nearly everything made for rolling stock.

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Sorry, Bob, I didn’t realise you needed N scale parts. If you can’t find them, you might want to get some in HO scale, then use them to get the measurements and the shape of the various contours (and those may need to be adjusted to fit your particular models)
If you need a bunch, I’d suggest making one (or ten) really nice ones, then use those to make moulds for casting more of them in resin.

Wayne

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Hi, Bob

I found this from a 1928 Car Builder’s Cyclopedia.

Sorry there’s no dimensions but perhaps you could extrapolate a rough idea. I went through my 1940 CYC and found no further information there. According to one book I have concerning Pullman cars says that by June, 1908, nearly half the Pullman fleet had been equipped with Thomas H Garland’s ventilator. Garland sold the manufacturing rights to his invention to the Burton W. Mudge & Co. of Chicago.

Hope this helps a bit, Ed

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Good morning all,

ndbprr, thank you, I will look into the Cyclopedia.

Wayne, if I have no luck with Ed’s drawings I may have to go the route you suggest.

Ed, Very nice drawings. This gives me a good place to start. By chance does this book also have what I’ll call the “ten inch fan in a box” vent drawing as well?

If anyone has decent pictures of these items that would be great as well.

Thank you to all who have responded so far,

Bob L.