Help with Models

I tried to build Heljan Grain Elevator 806 and 139 House but it lacked detailed instructions like atlas models so couldnt get far, but i like both models and match my layout design.

Is there anyway to find more detailed instructions or someone to run me through it or something.

Thanks for help

I think most of the instructions that come with these kits are of the pictorial variety. They generally show the assembly in sequence and it is assumed that the builder will follow along and attach the part shown as 1 in the little bubble to the part shown as 2 in another bubble. The parts on the sprue should have the corresponding part numbers. If you are looking for some instructions that verbally say “remove part 1 from the sprue and attach to part 2”, you might be out of luck. But then I don’t have the particular kits you mention so it’s possible that these kits had other, more comprehensive, instructions.

The house has numbered parts with only 1 picture not really showing how they connect

The silo has no numbers on parts or writing just one picture from one perspective

rather not guess and make a mistake :stuck_out_tongue:

Ah, I see. Basically you got a couple kits without any instructions.

Is there a way to find the missing instructions for them :stuck_out_tongue:

Is this the perspective you have? http://www.westerndepot.com/popup_image.php/pID/7078?osCsid=e6a05282cecace1caf98955a7ea4428f

yep thats the perspective its in just in black and white showing pieces

doesnt show where windows and etc. go into so had to guess that part from picture :stuck_out_tongue:

so far its the house and silo part confusing me with so little detail

I have assembled exactly two Heljan kits in my day – an overpass and an engine house. They both came with an exploded drawing with a couple of arrows showing what went where. I think that’s their standard (must be a Danish thing).

Since I was kitbashing them, I just dove in and put the things together, and they turened out fairly well, but I’m not going to rush out and buy another Heljan product.

Instructions? what are these things they call instructions? Seriously how complicated can it be, simply remove all your parts from the sprus and place them on your work bench. As long as you have a picture thats 99% of the battle. You just keep referring back to the picture seeing what fits where. If you don’t have a picture it’s almost as simple. Did you ever put any puzzles together as a kid? Simply see what pieces fit where. Your building a simple model kit not the space shuttle, don’t be intimidated by it… dive right in and as long as you dry fit the pieces together you can’t mess up. I built a Heljan roundhouse with 16 stalls for the club, While the old fossil’s of the club were arguing about this or that and how crappy the instructions were I was busy building the kit. I didn’t need the instructions to tell me that windows went in the walls and not the roof panels and that the doors went on the front not the floor. You get the idea, don’t be ascared its only plastic.

Well built puzzles a lot but what makes me not try is making a mistake and wasting the money. The house is main problem compared to the grain storer since theres pieces i’m not sure where they fit or go. Being wrong and making a mistake scares me :P.

Problem also is my model shop only has mostly helgan models so cant choose anything else.

(Btw i’m perfectionist)

Sorry to have to say this, but if you indeed are a perfectionist, then Heljan isn´t really for you.

They are cheap plastic kits made for the masses, and as such have crude detailing and sometimes a very poor fit.

Most craftsman kits on the other hand is very well detailed and is very time consuming to build, but make up into very nice looking models.

But, and this time its a big but, if you have a problem building a Heljan kit, I would have them made to order to reduce the risk of disappointment.

It´s a balance, I know. But if you dive in and try you´ll learn, and if you learn you want to try more. Good luck.

thanks graffen probably stick to atlas builds i can order them i guess. I’ll try attempting the models again will asking a person at my model club help i go there saturdays?

Also noticed that the plastic was cheaply made compared to atlas like you said pieces seem to find shavings coming off even with cutting with crafters knife didnt have problem with atlas molded ones.

Is there actual Grain Elevator silo and country house in atlas builds? If i dont get these right might get them rather if they make it that is wondering if i can return these models if so

You can always try the contact email address from their web pages: heljan@heljan.dk

I wouldn’t expect them to provide a full advice service, but they probably would be able to get you a xerox copy of the original instructions from the kit, or maybe reply if there just are a few specific details you are wondering about.

Good luck :slight_smile:

Smile,
Stein

Thanks stein for the email will try it [:)]

Try to make the most of the kit… if you can get the building part done/ figured out, you can always make silos out of some PVC pipe, a little liquid nails and some primer. I have a nice large basic set of silos I will be detailing out over time but as for the silos, I think it was $5 in PVC pipe and a can of primer I had around the house. Google scratched built HO scale silos and you find a lot of info and most of them being done at half the price of Walthers Kit/ Atlas kit

Thanks for the tips eric going to try it just now

Managed to get some basic things of silo done but still some strange pieces to figure out where they go :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: Finished most of it but stuck on silos part

Another thing to consider: it’s a plastic kit. If you really mess something up, whip out the ole #11 and slice the pieces apart. Sand or file the rough edges and put them together again.

If you really kill something, well, there are such things as superdetailing parts, sheet styrene, pre-cut doors, windows, and stairs, and filler putty.

Don’t be afraid to improvise, and you’ll do fine.

The key word here is DRY-FIT everything before you glue. I found a pic of that house by doing a Google image search and to be honest it looks like a very simple kit. You should have no problem figuring out what goes where just by matching pieces against the photo on the box cover.

I have the same problem with Model Power and Life-Like buildings I get all of the time ( Yes, there’s still someone who uses these cheep buildings and materials) and one thing that I have found helpful is to test each part in a certain area before cementing it, assuming that the instructions from Heljan are exploded-view drawings. It’s just trial and error. As long as you don’t glue the stuff down before testing it, you should be O.K.

As for the colors, I’ll just leave those to you[:D]