just watching the news and people complain about train noise.now under new proposed regulations air traffic patterns could change and more air traffic could be overhead.their goes the neighboorhood.
stay safe
joe
NIMBY’s vs. civilian aviation is a breeze, the planes are designed with noise abatement in mind. Military airfields is a whole other kettle of fish. Military aircraft are designed with on thing in mind…PERFORMANCE. Let the noise fall where it may. Being 2 miles from the end of a runway at a Naval Air station…our tax dollars make noise…AND A LOT OF IT.
Oh, yeah, there are a lot of people who buy houses right at the end of a runway and then start complaining about the noise.
Pardon our noise…it’s the sound of Freedom!
The folks around Miramar Naval Air station thought they were getting a good deal when the Navy Tactical Air moved out and the Marines moved down from El Toro. THey thought helos would be lots quieter than the F-14’s. Someone forgot to tell them that the marines were bringing the F-18’s along…pound for pound, probably the noisest airplane in Carrier Aviation…
And the bounce pattern (Field Carrier Landing Practice…FLCP’s) which are required before going back out to land on a ship can put an awful lot of airplane noise in a small piece of sky…through the wee hours of the morning…
Hahaha I knew some of these idiots that bought next to El Toro back when it was still an active base. Oh I could tell you stories…“What? they still use that base?” “We didnt hear any planes when we were house hunting” “Why do they have to fly at nighttime/daytime/mornings/evenings/weekends?”
Luckily I dont work down there anymore, too many idiots moved in, and now outnumber the sensible people 5 to 1.
“Gee _ I thought all they flew here were blimps and derrigibles (sp?) 'cuz all I can see is the big hangers and of course, all those Mensa qualified Real Estate Agents that got registered with two boxtops and 50 cents plus postage told me so” [(-D]
darned surveyors[;)]
Gee, I thought all those “big hangers” were for storing the Hot Air the politicians keep providing.[:-,]
We live in the East-West flight path from Lou. Int.(Standiford) if a plane goes over when you’re talking, best repeat what you were saying.
Add about 50 cents to what you’ve said, call someone who cares, and you might get a cup of coffee!!
Now, How can we keep the NS from blowing their horns at the crossings about three blocks from our house?[%-)][(-D][(-D]
FYI, I have talked to the Local “Airport Board” and “They are in compliance with noise regs.”
Wow! There are NIMBYs elsewhere besides this Forum? I’m shocked.
I have no problems with the noise, myself. Naval Air base two miles to the Eest and a flat switching railroad yard a mile to the East. However, the first time the Blue Angels did thier show after I moved in…I think I woke up clutching the ceiling of my bedroom as they made their 6 plane pass, 1K feet off the deck right down my condo’s driveway. When you aren’t expecting it, it is enough noise to raise the dead, rotate them and plant them again.
There’s a screaming match going on here in Sin City right now.
The Feds want some of the traffic departing McCarran westbound to turn north rather than south, to open up more departure slots at one of the busiest airports anywhere. The route had been used before, but not recently.
The new route would pass over some $$$ subdivisions. As soon as the residents got wind of the idea, they started acting as if the sky was falling - or raining aircraft and aircraft parts. Naturally, Hizzonor jumped on the bandwagon, promising to bring all of THE CITY’s political clout to bear against this invasion of the high-priced airspace.
Nowhere in the rhetoric was there any mention of three glaringly obvious facts:
- Those aircraft already overfly neighborhoods, just not neighborhoods of $2+ megabuck homes.
- The aircraft in question are civilian liners, engineered to be as quiet as possible.
- At the other northern corner of the valley, a lot of aircraft overfly residential neighborhoods - military aircraft from Nellis AFB (home of advanced fighter weapons training for the USAF) which are most emphatically NOT engineered to be quiet.
Where do I (who live close to Nellis) stand on this business? On the sidelines, laughing my head off. The people who don’t want those nasty, noisy, dangerous planes flying over their houses are the same people who cash in their sky miles on flights out of McCarran! OTOH, this ex-flight line mechanic feels right at home close to an Air Force base (with its commissary, BX, retiree affairs office…) A little afterburner noise is a low price to pay for that convenience.
Chuck (retired USAF)
We got the same problem where in the NYC area. A bunch of people in the Northern New Jersey suburbs are going apecrap on the FAA over proposed changes in approach patterns into the area’s airports.
But aren’t the same people who when they fly out of Newark Liberty International Airport are ready to slit someone’s throat when their flight is delayed for traffic and weather reasons??
I live in Brooklyn under the LaGuardia Airport final approach pattern and all the the stuff in the air is so quiet compared to let’s say 12 years back. All the aircraft got high bypass turbofans except the for DC-9/MD-80 variants. There are no 727’s anywhere to be found with their three noisy JT8’s. It is practically a whisper. The trucks and elevated subway trains make more noise.
For the people in NJ the planes will over fly at a much high altitude and have therefore a much smaller noise print and not to mention be safer and more fluid operation.
These are the same manureheads who have a cell phone permanently glued to the side of their heads, but squeal like stuck pigs when the cell phone company wants to put a tower within eyesight of their house.