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High winds knock-over 52 cars on UP train in Kansas
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High winds knock-over 52 cars on UP train in Kansas
Highly likely that the cars were mty, and that they took the gusts on their sides; The train was stopped, slack probably was neutral or bunched. the cars were likely high cars eg. box, coal or covered (grain car) hoppers, piggyback or 'stack car wth mty containers two high…
Whichever kind, they were stopped until they tipped over landing on their sides.
my guess: a unit mty coal train or pigs and stacks, loaded with mostly mty boxes. containers and trailers.
That’s my guess, and I’m on the ntsb (The" not the safety board")
Francis X. Carlin, …a unit mty coal train… you are on the money. Did you read a news story first? Otherwise, you know your stuff.
http://mscnews.net/news/index.cfm?nk=37472
… It was going from Arkansas to
Wyoming [with] a total of 134 empty coal cars. …
Francis X. Carlin, …a unit mty coal train… you are on the money. Did you read a news story first? Otherwise, you know your stuff.
http://mscnews.net/news/index.cfm?nk=37472
… It was going from Arkansas to
Wyoming [with] a total of 134 empty coal cars. …
Golden horseshoe. 52 cars with NO track damage. How did that happen? Went through their last night and it was impressive how quick the tracks were back open.
High Plains Wind. Several years back I helped a friend move to Idaho. We each drove fully loaded 26 foot U-Haul trucks towing car trailers and fully loaded cars. We were going about fifty-five on I-80 west of Rawlings Wyoming in a stiff wind. Our rigs were crabbing in the wind such that I could read ‘U-Haul’ on the SIDE of his truck in my side view mirror. We saw eight-wheeler trucks whose drivers ignored the ‘No Empty Boxes’ warnings on their sides off the road. The skies were clear that day. I was impressed.
Mr. Decapita…
Micheal, many heartfelt thank yous.
The only source of information was the Newswire story.
Therefore, I enthusiastically but humbly agree and endorse, your conclusion: after “otherwise, you…”
I did graduate after my 42 years intensive study at Steel Wheel University, PhD in Engine Service, credentialed as a Road Foreman of Engines, and Supervisor of Training at the Engine Service Training Center.
Varied, probably 90%, of the causes for derailments (low speed) experienced, observed and investigated.
Micheal, again Thank You.
Here’s a “bonus round” question: You look at the result of a low speed derailment: you walk alongside the engine and maybe a car or 2, and, voila…all the wheels are on, and there’s no damage, to the track structure…hmmmm…
walk around and on the other side you see an indicative scene: From head end to the rear end of the derailment, there’s a wheel on the rail, next wheel derailed, next wheel on, next wheel down, next one on, next one off…
What caused this to affect the wheels to derail in this pattern?
When I was working with the SP, I went to Mineola, Kansas, where a tornado had blown over a piggyback train. I ordered a group of 40-foot highway trailers into which to transfer the lading. The next day, another tornado blew over the trailers before I could load them. This was about 1986. It’s amazing what heavy winds can do.
God sneezes and there’s a call for “cleanup in isle 5”. Can people please type “empty instead of mty”? It doesn’t easily translate.
Empty coal train derailed by storm Thursday June 5th. No track damage. Line returned to service Wednesday-----which tomorrow is the next Wednesday following June 5th., given as the derailment date. I have been living my weeks backward for 80 years, or there is room for a correction here???
Think of what would have happened if Dispatcher had not stopped train ?
When did the derailment happen on BNSF east of Grand Island, NE? Another westbound empty unit coal train.