HO 5 axle C Liners being produced by Tru Line Trains

Model Railroader General Discussion (Model Railroader)
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I just saw this posting on Trains.com I know that Tru Line Trains are being produced by the same factory in China that Lifelike uses for its Proto 1000 and Proto 2000 models.
"Hello, I am a new member of this group. I am just letting everyone know that the previously produced HO Lifelike C Liners are being re-done as a brand new version by Tru Line Trains. The model being produced is the 5 axle version, not the 4 axle version (2 axles in the front truck and 3 axles in the rear truck). The 5 axle model has only been produced in brass, by Overland Models Inc. The Tru Line Trains model will be painted for CNR in two paint schemes: passenger colours of green/yellow/black and the red/black/white sergeant stripes. Both paint schemes are being done with either DCC/Sound installed, or without DCC. Here is a link to the webpage showing the .pdf pictures and their information, in case anyone wishes to contact them for more information:
http://www.modeltrains.com/WEB%20-%20CMT/True%20Line%20Trains/true-line-trains-canadian-national.htm

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Thanks for the info, and Welcome!

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True Line Trains is Hobbycraft Canada, who used to be the distributor of Life-Like products in Canada. They developed several Canadian prototype models on their own, and sold them under the Life Like Proto 1000 line. When Walthers purchased Life Like in the US, the association with Hobbcraft was ended. The 5-axle C-Liner was already under development by them, and they are continuing it under the new True Line Trains. Good for them, good for us in Canada!

Bob Boudreau

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thanks for the info int-in-canadian. though i am not into any canadian roads, being its a C-liner(Fairbanks-Morse), i find this model a must have for me.[;)][:D] thanks again for the info.[:)]

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Goes to show that there’s always something new for me to learn even though I’ve been in this hobby since 1976!

I did not know that another 5 axle cab diesel existed! Only one I knew of was the EMD FL9.

Any of you guys have info on the prototype 5 axle C Liner? (Who ran them, how many produced, etc)

Thanks!

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I know it was run by CN, the CPA16-5, and other heavier models, if you had anything over a 1600hp engine, and you added a steamj generator, you need another axle in the back to support the weight. I think LIRR had some CPA20-5s, and there were also CPA24-5s.
Matthew

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AntonioFP45,here is a photo of dimensions Of a CLiner
http://members.cox.net/edokeefe/cpa245(C%20Liner).jpg

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wrong link sorry about that.
http://members.cox.net/edokeefe/cpa245.jpg

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New Haven had them here is a link to photo.
http://members.cox.net/edokeefe/cliner.jpg

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Was it that they all had the same body? If not, the 5 axle CN unit would be different. They did have the same body, right?

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The Long Island Rail Road also had them during the 50’s-60’s. They we’re replaced by the high hood Alco C-420’s (Another model thats yet to be done!)

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I wonder if there is a difference between the 16-5 and 24-5 body?

I know the NH 24-5 version did not have a DB fan.

The New Haven had 10 CPA24-5’s, classed DER-4 - #790-799 delivered around 1951.

Used as single units often, being 2400hp - they could MU with other DER4’s AND DL-109’s and PA-1’s and did for longer trains. Later you could find them MUed on freights too with the PA and 109 units being bumped from passenger by the 1956 road switchers and FL-9’s.

Delivered was #13 Pullman Green with #44 Dulux gold stripes.
Second paint scheme was the McGinnis scheme post 1954.

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AntonioFP45, i am pretty sure i can help you. what roads would you specificly be interested in? Long Island, New Haven, New York Central and CN were the roads that had 5 axle C-liners. give me a road, and i can give you numbers and dates.[;)][:D]

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I wonder if they’ll appear in other roadnames? I wouldn’t mind an NYC one to go with my NYC C-Liner AB set…

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I wouldn’t be surprised if they came out in the US road names. The Canadian firm will have to do a lot to recover the funds they’ve invested in the tooling for the model. And there are only so many of us in Canada who will buy one.

The same firm developed the RS-18, whose basics were used to produce the RS-11 for the US market.

Bob Boudreau

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Edo1039, Idinc,

Thanks! Appreciated the info. I grew up in New York City (late 60s-early 70s) and lived near lines where the NH and LIRR operated.

Cool looking units!