If you watch the Rochelle can you will see the BNSF “local” picking up & delivering cars to the yard beyond the trees you cannot see. Once they are completed the local pulls back onto the mainline & after the crewman realigns the switch to straight the train pulls away WITHOUT the crewman. That crewman crosses the tracks hops in a car that has been waiting there & departs. So the question is who clocks him out where he clocked in as he did travel back to the yard where he started[?] Is this behavior allowed on the BNSF also[?]
Maybe the crew member uses his own car to next move, to open next switch.
a brakeman can use any means to do his job.
it sounds like your just trying to get these crews in trouble however.
I don’t think its your duty to keep track of how employees do their jobs.
Every timetable has a entire page of weedweasels in it, they don’t need railfans trying to supervise traincrews.
No do not think as he hopped off the engine to open the switch. It was after 1500 hours so I would say day was done. [:o)][:D][:)]
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Originally posted by Dutchrailnut
I do not want to hear this especially from BNSF. If there is a blind reverse move in here, I really do not want to hear this. I lost a neighbor in 1993 because of this kind of stunt on ATSF at Tomah, CO. Halley Mays, I have not forgotten.
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Sorry for the loss. Do you have any idea how this crewman gets clocked out when he hops into the passenger side of a auto waiting on the N/side of the UPRR tracks at the diamond after closing the switch[?][?]
Yesterday after closing the switch the train appeared to go on its way & 2 crewman stayed behind & then started walking down the tracks some minutes after the train departed & I wondered how they get clocked out as for sure they were not returning with the engines to the yard or another move. [?][?]
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Originally posted by mudchicken
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In answer to your question, the crewman is probably getting into a company-provided car to be given a ride back to the yard where he went on duty, just to avoid having to hang onto the hind end of that train for the couple of miles through town, or a long walk to the head end, possibly with grade crossings blocked (I don’t think they make 'em as tough as we used to be!).
MC, please breathe easy in this one–I don’t see the evidence of a blind shoving move.
As for tying up (or what you call “clocking out”), it’s done by yard crews at their on-duty point (road crews can tie up at a designated away-from-home terminal). Even when the Hours of Service expire, you’re on duty (“tow-in”) until you reach the terminal and tie up. Also, do not assume that just because an employee gets into a car he’s done working, or that you know how long he’s been on duty. They might be positioning him for the next move.
Yes your theroy of not hanging on to the hind end has merit to it. [:o)]
Clocking out was abused where I worked so they went to a fingerprint system which meant only the match to the fingerprint on file could clock in & out. [:p][:p]
I certainly presumed if you start at point A & you are in local duty you must return to the same place to clock out [:o)][:o)]
I was only asking based on what I observed on the cam. [:p][:)]
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Originally posted by CShaveRR
He said it pulled back onto the main, not that it backed onto the main.
Yes the train I saw yesterday was being pulled onto the main line not pushed onto the main line. [:o)][:p][:D]
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Originally posted by ajmiller
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Originally posted by mudchicken
I know Ed has told me before about a blind reverse move, but duh - I forgot. Can someone explain it to me again?
Moo
Mookie - Unless I miss my guess, it’s pushing cars “blind.” The proper action would be for someone to hang off the last (first for the move) car to spot hazards ahead. That’s one reason why you still see cabeese - known, regular long reverse moves. Instead of hanging off a car, the conductor can stand on the platform of the caboose.
I regularly see/hear the cab company used locally by CSX being called to assist with moves, resetting switches, etc. For that matter the local TM (who often helps the crews with assembling outgoing trains were I work) drives an unremarkable pickup. I know who he is and recognize his vehicle, but an outsider wouldn’t know.
Thanx Tree - I can’t imagine why you would ever do something like that. Unless you only have one car, do you just go until it sounds expensive? Doesn’t sound like a good plan to me!