My method of choice would be to use the Christmas decoration called Angel Hair. Two questions:
Does anyone have a notion of where this can be purchased. An hour on the internet and the phone found nothing? It seems to have gone out of use.
Are there other suggestions as to how the get the fine mist effect of that high and distant falls. The clear caulk on plastic seems to give a more close up and small falls effect.
Here is a pic of the effect I am after:
Apparently editing no longer bumps the post to the top.
Art, seems you ar having the same problem I am, no one wants to answer. As far as the angle hair, I remember it. I think it was made of fiberglass and was outlawed because of health reasons, not sure. Would white fiberglass building insulation work? That is the only thing I can think or right now. Are you haveng any luck posting pics? It’s good to have you back with us, even with no stars hahaha… Mike
It’s not that I don’t want to answer, I just don’t have any help on this. Vapor is as tough as smoke.
In a waterfall, a lot of the mist is from spatter, projections and turbulence in the line of fall. Eliminate those, and all you have to worry about is the mist where the water enters the plunge pool at the bottom.
Same problem, but less of it.
Art,
If you don’t mind working with REAL water…
An ultrasonic water mist/fog machine might work. Works with real water. You used to be able to get something similar at Spencer’s gifts.
Similiar to this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4428079414&category=20569
http://softlyspokenmagicspells.com/halloween/humidifiers.html
You can do a google search for “water fog ultrasonic machine”
BTW: That’s Bridal Veil Falls in Yosimite. Not Yosimite Falls :-D. (Not to be a smarty pants) I have a ton of hi-res photos of each if you need a model. Including a few of the Sugar Pine RR Shay.
[edit] Oops. Never mind. That was Yosimite Falls. It’s just at a close angle I’m not used to. Sorry.
I also saw a trick where they had semi transparent glass with tensil behind it and a fan blowing over it with a light to illuminate it.
(Lighting and Animation book from Kalmbach)
ART, Just a thought came to mind while using clear caulk experiment with mixing it with cotton balls ,you know the stream you get when you pull them apart ,just a thought ,
Carl…
I have read in several places of using the white polyfibre as found in pillow stuffing. This is the same stuff that WS sells but tinted green (and more expensive).
Can be purchased in WalMart fabric department for very little $$'s for a pillow sized bag. Use the caulk method as a base for the main water body (if required) then stretch and pull small amount of the white polyfibre into whispery airy consistency and glue on, much the same technique as using the green WS stuff for tree folliage.
You will have plenty left over to make trees with once sprayed green.
Edit: I’ll try and add some links later if I find them.
Have fun & be safe
Karl.
I have been thinking of using Woodland Scenics Water Effects. Applying it to a sheet of wax paper in long narrow strips untill dry. Then appling several strips to a clear strip of clear plastic sheet the size or lenght of my water fall (120 scale feet, then glueing small tuffs of cotton balls to the back and pull or tease it to repesent the water mist that is wind blown on the one side, then a dirty or wet grey on the downwind side of the cliff.
Will be interesting in watching this post if there are better ways of doing this…John
Art, as Karl suggested, the quilting batting works good. My wife and I experimented with it and found that if you pull it apart a little and mist it with hair spray that it stays where you put it. Then proceed as you would with the angel hair.[angel]
I’m sure Michael’s craft store would have it.
When I saw the title of this thread, my initial (facetious) thought was, “Start with a room with a 24 foot ceiling…”
Seriously, I believe that our friends in the CPSC outlawed angel hair as a health hazard. I remember getting my hands cut up trying to use it the one and only time it came into my home. Breathing fragments of it would probably do a number on your lungs - which is why respirators are recommended when handling fiberglas batt insulation.
Yosemite Falls is impressive, especially at the height of the spring runoff (the status in May, when I last visited the park.) On the other hand, it isn’t even visible from any point that ever had rails. Or are you planning to build up to El Portal, then have the falls in an adjacent stairwell?
Modeler’s license is wonderful!
Chuck
Getting the mist right on Yosemite falls will be much easier then getting it 1/87 as high!
That’s about 26feet! LOL
I have a little over five feet to work with, but it is in the back of the canyon so with forced perspective, I hope to get the impression. Closer in I am using N scale for the top of a mountain. The falls will be quite a bit further away.
I use a lot of artistic licence to get the world the way I think it should have been. Everything is prototype according the the warped pictures in my head. For true models of real railroads I wait for an invitation to visit some of you guys.
By the way, thanks for the good suggestions.
I too remember it being banned. It was health hazard as the spun glass fibers would break and when inhaled caused serious lung damage. What about fiber optics or a white synthetic wig with small Christmas tree bulbs of blue & white reflecting off of it from the foam?
Hmmmmm, A bowl of water hidden behind the top of the falls with dry Ice init so the resulting fog cascades down over the rocks. At first I thought this would just be a wise guy thing to say, but it has real possibilities. What do the movies do. Hey ya know those beer signs in the bars that have the moving water effects? They use a transparent foto then put a rotating screen behind with a light shining through. Real animation. O.K. enuf thinking out loud before I reveal my true self.[:D]