Hytech Power and Locomotive Diesels

I saw an article in Vox about this some weeks back and the activity in the SD70ACe-T4 thread jogged my memory.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/2/16/16926950/hydrogen-fuel-technology-economy-hytech-storage

https://www.hytechpower.com/

So this company HyTech power has developed a technique for using Hydrogen to assist in cleaning and improving efficency on ICE.

They are currently road testing with FedEx and have gotten some approvals from the EPA. They announced some sort of partnership with Caterpillar.

They mention various rubber tired vehicles, they mention stationary generators.

They DO NOT mention Diesel electic locomotives.

My questions are these:

Is there a reason they haven’t mentioned locomotives? Or, is the Caterpillar partnership going to result in something? It feels like UP or BNSF would want to run a test with this.

Second related question, I don’t know enough about the technology to even hazard a guess, but do medium speed Diesels present challenges to the use of this technolgoy? What about EMD 2 cycle? does it present a challenge?

Always fun to see these articles that recast ‘bold new theories’ when it comes time to go to market.

i always get a bit nervous when people start the verbal dance around water electrolysis, implying there are ways to get more energy out of hydrogen ‘combustion’ than you put in for ‘separation’. Note the invocation of seemingly large percentage of increased practical ‘separation’ out of the HyTech device with its carefully specified mix of electrocatalysts (or whatever they were called) drawing the eye away from the realities of practical use of hydrogen as a carrier fuel… it is as if they expect you to remember the ‘higher efficiency’ claim when they come back to the carrier-fuel ‘economy’ discussion later on.

Brown’s gas fans like me will readily recognize both what the ‘HHO’ device does and the ways it is supposed to work – of course, folks with different bold new theories and less Boeing-executive participation have been doing things like driving multiple alternators off driveshafts to run dissociators for years at three orders of magnitude lower cost or so, although relatively few have used modulated port injection. The initial principle is called promotion, making polynucleate ignition in an IC engine’s charge more effective (toluene is a chemical that can produce similar effects in some diesel-engine architectures, in corresponding molecular proportion to HHO introduction/injection, but of course has some o’dat ol’ debbil carbon in it so not part of the world’s ultimate drive to ‘full decarbonization’ or whatever other silly claim was being made.)

Note how carefully the article dances around what this use of ‘hydrogen’ is for, and how carefully it is distinguished from use of hydrogen as a carrier ‘energy fuel’ without telling the reader what the sleight-of-pen is for. This is an ominous sign to me. A much bigger one is the progress to discussing replaceme

The article is most assuredly written to a general interest audience. Hard to tell how much of the technical detail was not given vs. not kept in the article. The article I think is intended to serve as a counter point to Elon Musk pie in the sky coverage. It’s a bout near term possibilities vs. long term/impossible visions. It’s also curious trying to understand how Vox get’s clued into these kinds of technology. Presumably via a press release that caught their interest or similar mechanism. I did like that they included the skeptical response from others in the field. So, based on what you said, it sounds like the injection system is perhaps the most innovative change in this system.