A couple months ago, I was seeing ICE (Iowa, Chicago & Eastern) units sporadically appearing on CP Rail trains from Albany area to Mechanicsville NY (site of Pan Am yard.). Recently though, I’ve notice they are everywhere, even including CSX’s Selkirk and Mohawk lines. How and why are these out here? I’m assuming it has something to do with Pan Am, because they showed up about the same time.
Trevor
ICE and for that matter DME are originating Ethanol trains and the power is running through with the trains to their East Coast destination and then being used to return the empties back West.
I see them all the time in Ontario…and have even noticed them on the MMA through Quebec.
IC&E was a subsidiary of Canadian Pacific, it has now been merged into DM&E another subsidiary of Canadian Pacific, so they can show up anywhere that a CP locomotive can go. They can operate in Canada but they are not Lead qualified for Canada, and Canadian crew receive a small supplement if they have to use them as the leading locomotive in Canada.
I thought that IC&E stood for Indianapolis, Columbus and Eastern. [}:)]
Can you explain about the lead qualified part? They’re not lead qualified in Canada, but the Canadian crews receive a supplement when they do use them as a leading locomotive, even though they can’t?
Per Union Contract they must have working Hotplate and refrigerator, also the must have Reset Safety Control (specific type of Alerter) per Canadian regulations. Quite a few of CP’s older power is not allowed into the US as they do not meet Tier 0+ emissions standards, and their airbrake inspections are not current to US standards (Canada allows one year longer between teardown inspections).
Juniatha,
The key problem is that you’re trying to link a file that’s on your own computer (localhost, IP address 127.0.0.1). Unless you have a static IP address or a dynamic DNS address along with a web serer running on your computer, the picture file will only be accessible to you.
The second largest ethanol plant in the country is on the DM&E in Aurora, South Dakota.
Maybe at one time that was the case, but not any more. At only 120 MMgy, the Aurora SD plant is a mere piker. There are 9 USA plants that have greater capacity, 5 of those exceed 200 MMgy. Three of those 5 plants are in Iowa. Full details here:
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/plants/listplants/USA/page:1/sort:capacity/direction:desc
The plant in Aurora SD is the largest plant in South Dakota, though.
Hi Erik
Oh , I see it now - silly mistake , sorry . I didn’t notice since the forum software does not comply too well with Macs or the other way around - as you prefer , I had problems before to set links to a site in the internet that quite surely was not on my Apple double bubble wonder yonder device-on-ice .
Well , I guess I’ll delete my comments in this thread anyways since you guys are talking of absolutely fullcompletely totally different trains if on standard gauge .
Let the sun shine in
Juniatha
Levity from the members is one of the things that keeps this forum interesting…
I was going by stats I read in the USA Today in early 2006.
Thanks for that link with the plants. ADM sure made huge bets on ethanol. No wonder their profits are down this year.
What is the rule of thumb for capacity = car loads? I am curious how often these plants can spit out an 81 car unit train. A simple equation would work, I can do the rest.
The CSX and NS thru NW Indiana run far more ethanol trains these days than PRB coal trains, at least from my observations.
ed
Well, tank cars vary. But here is an article about ethanol transportation by rail that says:
TrinityRail, a leading manufacturer of railcars in North America and Europe, offers a wide range of standard and optional features for its 263,000-pound, gross rail load, non-coiled and non-insulated tank car, which has a shell capacity of 30,145 gallons.
Full article here: http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/1885/transportation-solutions-for-the-ethanol-industry/
FYI, you indicated in another thread that you wanted to know how to link articles. Here’s a tutorial. Bring up in your browser the article you wish to link. Highlight the contents of the “address” (URL) box in your browser. While the cursor is over the highlight, right click the mouse and choose “Copy”. Now go to your forum message and place the cursor where you want to insert the link. Right click the mouse and choose “Paste”. Job now done, but perhaps you might want to test the link in “Preview” mode before posting.
Rader:
Thanks for the simple and concise explanation. Nothing like a little knowledge.
Ed