I'm just starting out and know nothing about model railroading

Hello everybody,

I am 40 years old and want to get into model railroading. I have been reading these forums for a couple weeks now learning everything I can. I bought all twelve of the year 2005 Model Railroader magazines off ebay and have been pouring through them. I think I am ready to get started. I have a large garage that I will use for this hobby. I am thinking of starting with a 4x8 layout and simply buy a train set to start with. So where do I start? I am not a woodworker but can build simple things like the benchwork for a 4x8 if I have detailed plans with photos.

My two main questions for now is:

  1. What is the easiest 4x8 benchwork plan and where can I view it?

  2. What would be the best starter train set?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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  1. Easiest 4x8 bench - 1 pc 3/4" ac fir plywood + 1 leg set available at Lowes/Home Cheapo/your local lumberyard/hardware store (folding ones will cost about $25 for the pair.

  2. Athearn and Lifelike/proto both offer good quality starter sets. Buy from your LHS (local hobby shop) or if you have no local shop, Walthers has an online store + there are others. Bachmann also sells sets, but they are spotty as far as quality - some include their basic DCC which is not the best. For starters, go with the standard DC which is included with the Athearn and Proto sets - just check that the locos are DCC ready if you decide to get serious and go that way. AVOID BUYING TRAIN SETS FROM THE BIG BOX TOY STORES/DEPARTMENT/ DISCOUNT STORES!!! They usually carry the low end stuff that is more trouble than it’s worth!!

  3. Welcome to the hobby!![:)]

Well, first off, welcome to the marvelous world of model railroading! I have a book which shows plans for a 4x8 table. I’ll get pictures of that up as soon as I can.

Now for the starter set, I recomend that you, instead, buy a good locomotive, a few good frieght cars, a decent power opack, and an oval of snap track. trust me, when the model railroading fever hits, you’ll be wanting higher quality than the train set stuff.

BTW, what scale is this?

I suggest this Kalmbach book. i have it, and that’s where I’ll be getting those plans for a 4x8 table from. also, it’s where I got the advice about picking up those components, instead of a train set.

BTW, you can find it on Amazon, if Kalmbach doesn’t print it anymore.

Milby,

I suggest you look at the many publications available from Kalmbach, the host of this website, and the publisher of Model Railroader. You will find “entry level” publications that will provide all the information you seek: how to build benchwork, beginners tips, track plans, track laying, basic wiring, cars and engines, scenery, structures, you name it.

I’ve been in this hobby since the early 1960s. My first exposure to Model Railroader was the December 1963 issue (I think I still have it somewhere). Back then, Kalmbach had a few fabulous publications for beginners and several more specialized offerings dealing with track plans, scenery, structures, etc. Today, the offerings have increased exponentially, and the quality and content has not suffered one bit.

You want to start? Take a look at what Kalmbach has to offer. I think you’ll be pleased with their literature. Good luck with a very fascinating hobby!

By the way, I have no affiliation with Kalmbach - just years as a customer.

chicochip

Milby–

Chicochip has some good advice–MR magazine has put out some really fine beginner’s manuals on how to get started that should be available at your local hobby shop. And while you’re there, assuming that the LHS is basically a model railroad shop, don’t be afraid to ask questions. I’ve been in the hobby since about 1958, and I can tell you that almost any question I need answered, I’ve been able to get at my LHS’s.

I would stay away from the ‘train-set’ packages and buy piecemeal. And I’d start in DC which can be converted to DCC down the line if you choose. Athearn/Heritage, Proto and Kato all put out good-quality locomotives, and ready-to-run and easy building car kits are available from manufacturers such as Athearn, Atlas, Walthers, Accurail, and several other Mfgrs. Atlas puts out a good line of Snap-Track which is easy to assemble and is very complete as far as turnouts, crossings, etc.

But first of all, I’d reccommend the Kalmbach ‘starter’ Model Railroading books, especially their ones that deal with layout planning and construction and wiring. I don’t think you can go wrong. One nice thing about the books is that they’re usually continually updated as far as the improvements that have come along in the hobby, especially the last ten years.

Welcome to the hobby. I know a lot of other members of this forum will have a lot of information to give you.

Tom [:D]

Uh, tom, you forgot the best loco producer: Atlas. I’m just an extremly satisfied atlas customer, not an employ (but i would like a job there).

[#welcome]Here’s some 4x8-ish layout you can check out. Atlas sells these as complete track packs so you just buy it and follow the instructions. As mentioned, Atlas and Athearn make some descent sets. Bachmann Spectrum sets are good too.
http://www.atlasrr.com/Code100web/index.htm

If you want to get up and running quickly, many manufacturers in N and HO scales make track which is pre-mounted to roadbed and snaps together like a slot car track. This takes most of the guesswork and troubleshooting out of tracklaying, but it severely limits the variety of your track plans. For the pre-mounted stuff, Kato’s Unitrack is the best in quality and appearance, but the most expensive as well. I have used Bachmann’s E-Z Track and Lifelike’s Power-Lock track with excellent results on my children’s layouts. I whipped out an inner / outer oval with a passing siding, a one track industrial stub, and a two track servicing area in about an hour and a half for my kids layout using Power-Lock and haven’t had an ounce of trouble with it that wasn’t caused by glue or paint on the rails (as a result of landscaping).

Whatever track you get, though, make sure it’s Nickel-Silver, not stainless steel or brass. The latter two don’t conduct electricity when they corrode, leading to a lot of problems that will frustrate beginners.

If you go with the 4x8 sheet you should make framework from 1x4s or the sheet will sag & cause ALL kinds of problems. Don’t rush the benchwork. Make it bullet proof now…very tough to fix later. Buy a good quality Loco or you will become frustrated & soon give up. Jerry

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Do you have any idea of the time period or place you wish to model?

Welcome to the hobby and the forum. My layout is 3 four by eights connected with some shelf layout sections. I built it section at a time.

If you like mountains and valleys and bridges, look into L-girder benchwork. If you like dramatic scenery, look into carving styrofoam. All of these thing can be talked about as you get to them.

If you want something up and running quickly that you will probably rebuild later one, the plywood sheet, snap track, one good engine and some cars that you like is a good way to start. A good DC power pack will get you started, but if you have the funds, start with DCC.

Some will say otherwise, but start with an engine with sound. I love the noise.

Hi there and welcome to the hobby,

Whatever you do, grow your layout so that you grow your own skills progressively too. I have an article in electronic form which may be of assistance to you, gratis if you contact me on my website, www.xdford.digitalzones.com.

I might suggest that you also look at www.hogrr.com as a good starting base for a trackplan as something I would do in future myself as a variation of a 4x8. The layout shown could also be “grown” very well

Cheers from Down Under

Trevor

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If you want to start off with a 4x8 Practice layout, Model Railroader, yearly (and sometimes more), publishes project layouts typically geared at the novice. Usually beginning in December or January. I’d recommend picking up 2006 MR as well.

Give this a 5 minute read: BEGINNING

Good luck and enjoy the trip…

P1:

What? Atlas doesn’t make locomotives.

Atlas makes models of those silly powered boxcars that the real railroads have to paint in pretty colors to keep people from looking away in disgust. :smiley:

This is what a locomotive looks like:
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_prr6184.jpg

Glad I could help a newcomer. :slight_smile:

I have heard that Atlas’, ahem, streetcars look just like the real thing and run really well, and are in fact of first-rate quality…for something without side rods…

First, I’d like to welcome you to the Forum. I remember years ago, when I started my first garage layout, I was so excited by the idea of a layout, I didn’t give it much thought (I couldn’t wait to get my layout started).If you’re starting with a 4x8 layout with an eye towards expansion, design your layout with turnouts that will connect to those tracks in the future. If I were you, I would design the layout with the 4 foot side of the layout towards a wall, so that being able to reach all areas of the layout won’t be an issue.

Check out the links on the Model Railroader magazine site. At the bottom of the page, you’ll find some links for newcomers. Also, check out some of the publications from Kalmbach, as well. There are some for layout designs, wiring, etc. I’ve included some links below that you may find useful.

Model Railroader magazine

Helpful Kalmbach publications

Welcome aboard.

Model Railroader, the magazine, has a pretty good slogan for the hobby - Dream, Plan, Build. You’ve done some dreaming already, and part of your dream has already come true - you’ve got a whole garage to work with. But, before you start building, I think you need to spend a bit more time planning.

Yeah, it’s like a candy shop, isn’t it? There really is a lot of great stuff out there. So much, in fact, that it’s really tempting to over-buy. After a bit of this, most of us settle on a theme for our layout, and a location, and perhaps most important, an era. Back in the early 60’s, when I was a boy building my first HO layout, I bought mostly “modern era” stuff. Other equipment was thrown in, too. I guess I was vaguely aware that I never saw steam engines any more, but that didn’t keep me from running a couple in normal freight service on my layout. Now, though, I’m “early 60’s” myself, and my 40-50 year old equipment is “late transition” era. So, that’s what I model. No SD-40’s, no 80-foot autoracks, no container well cars. So, think about these things before you rush out and buy neat-looking stuff.

A garage is a big space. A 4x8 may be the right thing for you, but many of us will tell you that an around-the walls layout is a much better way to go, if you can manage it. Take a look at the space you’ve got, and imagine a main line running all the way around the outside of the room, maybe with a bridge on a swinging gate where your door is. Or, if that big garage door still needs to open, how about a layout around 3 sides of the room, either with a train yard at each end (point-to-point railroad) or a bulge at each end to accomodate a loop, giving you a “continuous running” railroad?

Finally, have you looked in your community for train shops and train clubs? If you’re lucky, you mi

Thanks for all the information everyone. I’m thinking of starting with this http://www.atlasrr.com/Code100web/pages/10002.htm

Does this layout include everything I would need except the trains or is this for just the tracks? Also should I go with code 100 or 80. Thanks again.

Our house is right next to the railroad track. Union Pacific runs alot of trains from St. Louis to Kansas City. Amtrak also runs two or three trains daily on it. So I was thinking of modeling the present with scenes from our town. I’m not sure yet. I have lived in this town for 20 years and didn’t really notice how many trains went through until we moved into our current house a year ago. I couldn’t beleive how many trains go through everyday.

For a first layout that might be a little bit complicated with wiring etc. Kato, Atlas and Bachmann offer “World’s Greatest Hobby” track sets which come with each company’s ‘track-with-roadbed’ track, instructions, and a DVD on building the layout hosted by TV’s Michael Gross (who is also a model railroader and owner of a real railroad shortline). Personally I’d go with the Kato track version, it’s narrow-profile code 83 track is very realistic, is very reliable, and their line offers a good selection of track to add to the layout down the road.

For engines, I think most of us end up with many more engines than we really need. I would try to limit yourself to one or two engines at first - rather than buy 5-6 cheap engines, get one or two really good ones. Even if you start with DC, I would get engines equipped with sound and “dual mode” operation, so that they work on DC or DCC command control right out of the box. That way you can later change to DCC and not have to make any modifications to the engines. BLI, Atlas and Life-Like and others make nice medium sized diesels (look for ones with four axles rather than eight) th

What?! You live right next to the tracks? I have to ride my bike 15 minutes to the tracks! You must post pictures!!!