I saw an NS gp38 i think,anyway it had stenciled on it CNO or something like that in small letters. Anyone have info on this? thanx
Possibly CNO&TP–for the Cincinnati, New Orleans & Texas Pacific, A Southern Railway component. Others would show up as well–CG for Central of Georgia, AGS for Alabama Great Southern, NO&NE for the New Orleans & Northeastern, CR&N for the California & Northwestern. Maybe a few others for other components.
The loco’s were the property of those railroads when they were absorbed into the NS system. I beleive other railroads have done this as well. I want to say maybe PC or CR but I am fuzzy on the exact roads.
It was explained to me, some time back, that the lettering was, as explained above, for identification of the owning component of the railroad. The lettering was an easy way for employees, on the ground to track, and or route power back to home divisions.
Sam
CR&N is obviously Carolina & Northwestern.
The exact circumstances vary but in some cases the Southern Rwy. ( and NS) do not own these properties, they are on long term leases. The best known example is the CNO&TP, the NS subsidiary that operates the Cincinnati Southern. The Cincinnati Southern runs from, where else Cincinnati to Chattanooga, TN and is owned by the City of Cincinnati. The railroad is leased to the NS subsidiary CNO&TP with the lease payment being a portion of the revenues, hence the need to keep its accounts separate from those of the parent.
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It was explained to me, some time back, that the lettering was, as explained above, for identification of the owning component of the railroad. The lettering was an easy way for employees, on the ground to track, and or route power back to home divisions.
Sam
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beaulieu Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 23:50:58
Possibly CNO&TP–for the Cincinnati, New Orleans & Texas Pacific, A Southern Railway component. Others would show up as well–CG for Central of Georgia, AGS for Alabama Great Southern, NO&NE for the New Orleans & Northeastern, CR&N for the California & Northwestern. Maybe a few others for other components.
Sam
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CR&N is obviously Carolina & Northwestern.
The exact circumstances vary but in some cases the Southern Rwy. ( and NS) do not own these properties, they are on long term leases. The best known example is the CNO&TP, the NS subsidiary that operates the Cincinnati Southern. The Cincinnati Southern runs from, where else Cincinnati to Chattanooga, TN and is owned by the City of Cincinnati. The railroad is leased to the NS subsidiary CNO&TP with the lease payment being a portion of the revenues, hence the need to keep its accounts separate from those of the parent.
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Being of leased ownership would explain the need to keep up with, and track their equipment. Makes sense.
Thanks,
Sam
Sorry–I knew that it was Carolina & Northwestern! My mind sometimes wanders west (I’d just been talking to my California daughter).
you will noticed I said adsorbed and not bought or purchased. Different roads have different agreements. It makes for a complicated accounting department. I think early NS loco’s had an NS designation. I beleive thou now a lack of designation means NS ownership.