Is it true to prototype, or does it even exist at all ?...

Have any of you folks ever bought an engine or rolling stock only to find later that it’s either way off on the actual appearance of the real thing, or that it never actually existed at all… It’s really a big let down-especially when you have a lot of money tied up in it.
I have a friend that recently purchased what was supposed to be an early version of the Santa Fe Super Chief, including an E 8/9 A & B unit set and a full consist of silver “smooth side” cars. It’s a beautiful train, but as far as we can find, no such train like it ever existed…

Anybody out there ever had anything like that happen to them ?.

-Happy Easter-

trainluver1

Sorry about your misfortune. If your trying to be true to prototypical models you should do a little reasearch before you make a purchase. I have had that experience a few times in my early modeling days.

This should be over in the MR forum.

Thank you for pointing out my mistake chad thomas. Maybe I can return the favor some day… Now. On with the topic.

You will find that just about every piece of model rolling stock and locomotive is sold in Santa Fe colors, even though SF might never have owned or ran that paticular equipment…due to the fact that the Santa Fe is so popular.
This is especially true of older model makers…almost every model diesel locomotive will come in Santa Fe Warbonnet colors…

Your best bet is to do a little “net” time reserch for a good roster of the old SF equipment…then compare before buying…
Ed

Actually the ATSF did have E units they even had E8’s that were rebuilt fromeariler models and were called the E8m by EMD

I have a blue and gold ATSF GP38-2 in HI NOSE version. I know ATSF didn’t have those…lol…

Oh well, looks good running around the Christmas Tree…

LC

Were they used to pull freight or passenger service ?.

“Thanks”

trainluver1

Pax, and some freight right at the end, up on the racetrack where it is relatively flat.

So you’re saying the old E/8s weren’t all that hot at pulling up grades ?.

trainluver1

Sometimes early versions of even prototypes can be kind of oddball…or even one offs.

underworld

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This is very true. Take for example the Santa Fe/Southern Pacific paint scheme that went over like a lead balloon. They were orange and yellow, and had a big yellow SP on each side. Though only a limited number of these were actually painted in the real world, as soon as word got out, the model train manufacturers started turning them out. I still see one every now and then collecting dust in some hobby shop that’s been marked down so many times that they’re all but giving it away.
That also brings to mind the odd ball collectors cars that never really existed, but look cool to people that don’t know any better and are more than willing to buy them. Correctness has been tossed to the wind. If candy striped peppermint flavored monkey wrenches were in demand, companies would turn them out by the thousands… It’s all about M-O-N-E-Y…

Trainluver1. That is the reson why the Union Pacific Raulroad filed a law suit back on (12-25-05) to make sure the Models are correct. BNSFrailfan.

That’s right. They were geared for high speed and relatively light trains. That said, experience in the mountains was that they were outpulled by the F’s and PA’s, not just on ATSF, but also on GN and SP. Note that the ATSF and GN transcons all got the F’s when they became available enough quantities, and the E’s got sent back to the flatlands.

BTW, this topic is also running on:

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33961

Yea. I didn’t really mean to start duplicate topics under different headings, but that seems to be the way it went. One was supposed to be about my friend’s so called
SF Super Chief and the other about poor quality copies of rolling stock. Oh well. I learned a lesson didn’t I…

Thanks for all your help guys.

trainluver1

What lesson??? Just directing a little traffic in case some of the good folks here wanted to read the other posts as well.

Glad to try and help. Hope the other sites were useful.

Happy Easter and Adios![C):-)]

Everyone knows about the Lionel Pennsy N5C that was made in 50 different paint schemes.

Adrianspeeder

Isn’t Modeling GREAT?
BNSFrailfan.

I had a Life-Like (or maybe it was Bachman) Brunswick Green PRR F45. I’m sure Pennsy had lots of them.

How about a Santa Fe GG1, or C-Liner!
Been Done!

Jimmy

Then there are the cases of one experimental locomotive being the prototype for tens of thousands of models: Example: The PRR steam turbine S-2, (6-8-6)
Lionel model?