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Italian high speed operator celebrates 1 million passengers
I think you missed something in the top speed. The trains and the lines they run on are good for 187mph. Not just 87mph
Is this a test?
346 miles, 2 hrs 45 min, 87 mph trains.
now we know how little far behind U.S. techno’ skills are.
I love it! Why can’t this be accomplished in Michigan, Texas, Florida, or any of our great states?
I think you meant to say 25 trains capable of 187 mph not 87 mph. The average speed for this trip is over 120 mph. It is sad that we can’t do this in the US.
I think you meant to say 25 trains capable of 187 mph not 87 mph. The average speed for this trip is over 120 mph. It is sad that we can’t do this in the US.
That burgundy color is deluxe! These trainsets are essentially the same as the French TGVs so, yep, they go 187 mph. Did NTV build its own right of way, or do their trains use an open access agreement over publicly or privately owned rails? Here’s another project that bears watching for those who’d like to see the NEC privatized. I’m not taking sides on the issue… just sayin’.
I will say this is some pretty tough mountainous terrain. Was the entire line privately built?
Why can’t we do this in the states?
The Italian government has provided high speed rail since 1977 on the Rome to Florence segment. In 2008 it spent 6.9 billion euro to construct 113 miles from Milan to Bologna in the relatively flat Po valley. The 48 mile section from Bologna to Florence goes under the mountain with nine tunnels of 45 miles total. In 2000 the European Community mandated a separation of the rail infastructure from the train operation. Thus was born government owned RFI and Trenitalia. Trenitalia has revenue of about 5.7 billion euro and in 2011 transported 25 million passengers and 28 billion ton of cargo. In 2013 it will start using 50 new ETR1000 trainsets capable of 250 mph.
The Italian government has provided high speed rail since 1977 on the Rome to Florence segment. In 2008 it spent 6.9 billion euro to construct 113 miles from Milan to Bologna in the relatively flat Po valley. The 48 mile section from Bologna to Florence goes under the mountain with nine tunnels of 45 miles total. In 2000 the European Community mandated a separation of the rail infastructure from the train operation. Thus was born government owned RFI and Trenitalia. Trenitalia has revenue of about 5.7 billion euro and in 2011 h
Actually, the Alstom AGV trainsets NTV purchased for the Italo train service are capable of 330 KPH or 200 MPH; however, their maximum authorized speed on Trenitalia’s high speed lines is 300 KPH or 187 MPH. NTV has not, to my knowledge, built any new high speed lines for its service. It’s simply buying “paths” from the Italian state railway company, Trenitalia.
NTV’s trains are no faster than Trenitalia’s “FrecciArgento” and “FrecciaRosso” trainsets, but fewer intermediate stops, a much greater emphasis on ontime performance, personalized service with NTV employees meeting passengers on platforms, and fancier interiors distinguish NTV’s AGV Italo trains from the more utilitarian ETR 500 and ETR 600 pendolino equipment.
Hmmmm…interesting, but I can only see the blatant typo in the article describing the trains as “…87-mph high speed trains.” The average reader could be even more confused by that than this veteran railfan/historian was. Honestly y’all, this sort of sloppy journalism does Trains no honor. Tighten it up!
Frankly, this model that the European Union has developed of government own track that is “leased” to train set operators intrigues me…and looks like one that could work in North East Corridor, that is, replace Amtrak with privately operated trains. The same could be done on many of the municipally owned commuter railroads…which own their track.
I have also learned that the European countries do NOT build the track. The process being used now leases an unimproved right of way to a railroad operator for 30 years…and the operator builds/installs the track and signaling and is the outfit that the private railroads pay to operate trains on. At the end of the 30 year lease, the country takes ownership of the line, and releases the operations out. This way, the country get paid…it doesn’t pay out.
I wonder if there’s a math problem here. 87 mph = high speed?
346 miles at 87 mph = 4 hours not 2.75. No matter, would love to cover SF-LA in 2 hours 45 anytime.
87 mph is high speed? Must be 187 mph instead.
Does dey serve Clams Oreganato? Dat would’a be wort’ de trip!
87-mph trains? Then how do they run from Rome to Milan at 125 mph (376 miles in 2.75 hrs)?
Of course, this great achievement of the private sector will never get mainstream coverage since it refutes the popular notion that only government can provide high speed rail service.
I hope that the 87 mph. is a typo. Because if it isn’t, It’s no better than the L.I.R.R’s M-1 which could operate no faster than 80 mph., even though its speedometer could go up to 120!