I was wondering who owns and switches the tracks in side the Proctor and Gamble plant in Ivorydale, OH. I have the beaver map of the Chessie from 1988 ( I think. its the late 80’s and I don’t have it infront of me ). I also have some Conrail ZTS maps from 1986. The Chessie has a yard there and all tracks are labeled P&G, making it look like these are owned and switched by P&G. However, the conrail Maps have most of the tracks labeled with track and spots, which makes it seam like they own and switch them ( Now NS ). In other places, the Chessie maps do say which person has the tracks, and if they aren’t switched by the Chessie, the tracks are mostly skipped and there is no Industry number assigned.
So, who owns and switches that large plant?
As a further questions, does anyone know what chemicals they bring in and ship out? And it what numbers? The whole facility is riddled with tank cars, and only a few covered hoppers and box cars. I read somewhere that they may not even make Ivory soap there anymore.
Proctor & Gamble has had it’s own in-plant switching operation for years. They had several small steam engines. Their first diesel, an Alco S-1 (#9)was donated to the Whitewater Valley Railroad at Connersville, IN and still runs there masquerading as a NYC engine. Their second diesel , a rebuilt GP-7 chopnose (ex C&O) was retired and sold in the 1990’s. The third unit running in there today is operated by a contract switcher. NS and CSX both switch the plant along with I&O/ RailAmerica.
The buildings you see from Spring Grove Avenue in Cincinnati are basically just the saved fascades of the old original buildings with new modern structures built behind them, preserving the pre WW2 look of the factory grounds. Rail traffic in and out of the plant is considerably less than what it used to be.
Ivory detergent is made accross the street at the St. Bernard Plant and I believe the bar soap comes out of Cape Girardeau, MO these days. (P&G has plants all over the country and around the world.)
The comment about chemicals does not deserve an answer/ none of your business. (…sounds like another fishing expedition from one of their lowlife competitors that loves to spread false rumors and then repeatedly gets dragged into court for libel / slander)
Actually I’m tracing the tracks with the eventual goal of making some sort of computer simulation ( Trainz, with out people running the trains ). I was asking just in case somebody knew their in / out loads, since I’ll have to attemp to figure out these kinds of things for any number of industries ( Atleast it would give real numbers to try and switch the plant, not just made up like I’ll probably have to go with ).
I’m a programmer, not a competitor. I don’t even read the ingrediants on half the things, let along know how to make them
Ya know, mudchicken, you bring up an interesting point about the chemicals (none of your business). I can imagine that if a terrorist wanted that kind of information, one of the ways that they could try to obtain it would be to ask an “innocent” question on a forum such as this.
If I were a terrorist, I wouldn’t bother asking anyone, I would just go find a nice string of tank cars at the local plant and look at the hazmat placards.
