Jeffreys Track Side Diner for March 2023

Good afternoon Diners. A large coffee and a piece of carrot cake please, Zoe.

I do like the colours of London & North Western Railway carriages.

A 12 wheel Director’s Saloon built 1913 preserved at Wensleydale Railway.

IMG_2268 by David Harrison, on Flickr

Queen Alexandra’s Saloon built by LNWR in 1902 preserved at ‘Locomotion’, Shildon.

IMG_2323 by David Harrison, on Flickr

Nothing as grand at Leeds Sovereign Street Station, but required. [:D]

IMG_2550 by David Harrison, on Flickr

David

The World Is A Beautiful Place

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

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Good morning everyone. It is an A+ beautiful morning down here. I hope everyone is up for a great weekend.

Brother Lion: I always find the pictures you post showing subway operations incredibly interesting. Thank you.

-Kevin

Good morning

Dont know, but somehow I’m thinking him’s answer isn’t “all of them” again Mr Lion?

Let’s ask Mr Owl, for him is much older and wiser than the both of us put together[(-D]

Ewe didn’t have any pics of “Plate F” type boxcars doe.

TF

Brother Elias has exposed what may be a long-ignored demographic of rolling stock: MoW equipment (and yard power) for light rail and interurban systems! And what do we have here - trash haulers? And what of the tank cars? For some strange reason, it had never occurred to me that there was such. I guess I just presumed that their way and station maintenance guys just puttered around in pickup trucks.

Hey, LION, do you have any MoW equipment on your extensive subterranean pike?

Attuvian1 John

Good morning, diners. It was chilly for the morning walk, but not like January. Maybe spring is around the corner.

Like some other retired people, I have a bucket list. One of the bucket list items it to get to North Dakota to see Lion’s subway. I was originally going several years ago to Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota, and I thought that I might be able to stop by to say hello to Lion. That trip is still planned, but every summer it gets pushed back. I like Lion’s pictures of New York’s subway, but I really like pictures of his North Dakota subway.

I’m working on some turnout motors under the layout today. Not difficult, but I don’t like the physical part of climbing under the layout and working above my head. Kevin’s soffit work sounds like a nightmare to me.

A Florida East Coast boxcar:

Have a good Saturday, everyone.

Sure did like that new canary yellow paint job on the beat up gondola[:P] you found John.

Unfortunately, you may have intrigued me to dust off my wallet again, as it was found there is only three of them in my rolling stock roster and have no idea why that is.

It was thought, the parting of purchases on eBay for freight cars was finally to be over for years now. But a nice long string of those bad boys would give new definition to the term “Wagon Train”, …Wouldn’t it? [(-D]…[;)]

TF

I went through North Dakota a couple of years ago and wanted to see Lion’s layout, but he became ill and I thought it would be rude to ask.

Maybe I will get back there.

Theodore Roosevelt is a magnificent National Park that does not get the recognition it deserves. I had a wonderful time there. The scenery is amazing, and the park is very quiet compared to Yellowstone.

I saw my first Buffalo there!

It has not been as bad as expected. Of course, I am six weeks into it with probable six more to go. I am not forcing myself to work beyond my capacity.

-Kevin

Hi Kevin, Capacity is that first moment you start feeling tired and worn out towards the end of the day. That’s when you lay down the tools, as it’s nothing that a nice, ice cold one won’t take care of for you at that point. Think they call it Beer:30[B]

Nice job on the soffits by the way, but there is no reason for you to do this.

There are places you can go that have carpenters for hire, already experienced, and ready to work[;)]

TF

My soffit is 1/2" PVC, with diagonal supports added to the eaves every 24" for support. The interior soffit support is all being replaced with PT 2 by 4. All joints are further reenforced with 3/4" PVC dimensional. Almost 50% of the eaves and about 20% of the rafter ends require replacement. The edges on the house are further supported by a conituous PVC support rail.

I am into this for $5,000.00 in material alone. The one person I found experienced with this system wanted $12,000.00 to $15,000.00 for installation.

The decision to do it myself was easy. I also get to wire in the soffit lights, security lights, cameras, and outdoors speakers exactly how I want them.

Should be good for 175 MPH… this is the third and final time I am replacing this soffit.

Finding anyone to do anything is nearly impossible right now. Anyone who can be on a roof at 6:00 AM and work all day is rolling in money right now. All other trades are suffering from a serious labor shortage.

-Kevin

Yep, am quite familiar with the after storm “Hay Days” and how that works.

You might possibly had not noticed my fishy humor there[(-D] Thought you would appreciate and get a kick out of that one[swg]

It’s a good thing you know how to do all that, as I’m well aware its darn near impossible to get quality tradesmen front and center after storms.

Insurance money always was a sure bet, and everyone reputable always gets completely booked pretty quick.

TF

Afternoon Folks!

Think you might fnd this interestion…

https://railfan.com/genesee-valley-transportation-acquires-famous-alco-pa/

I have pretty much recovered from the crap! Symptoms have receeded and I feel pretty much back to normal. Actually put on mask and did some quick shopping today. Biggest bummer is that I will miss my Granddaughter’s 14 birthday party tommorrow. We are being extra carefull because some of the folks that will be there are imunno compromized or take care of someone who is. Two are either having surgery next week or caring for a little girl who is having major surgery next week. So I will celebrate the birthday in another week… (sigh).

Glad I kept up to date with all the vaccines!

73

Yes, I do have many MOW units on my railroad. Here aare some on the MTA.

  1. You have correctly identified the trash train. Some work just one line and others will work several lines in its division.

  2. The Money Train. It is no longer used, they use surface armored cars instead. That does not jack up the line like the money train did, and besides, most people use credit cards so there is less cash to deal with. Still, when they open a ticket machine, there is the banker who collects the money replaces the ticket cards and repairs any damage caused by kids. The other two men in the team are holding rifles, nice black assault rifles, and I do suspect that they are military issue that can go full auto if necessary. I do have an money train on my layout. As for the subway, their money train is in the museum and has a cat sitting on the counting table.

  3. You saw the tank cars, these are used for flood mitigation. It ha several flat cars that can be backed into the flood. a few cars up is the pump car, run on diesel, then there are the tank cars to receive the slop finaly there is a diesel locomotive since the power is of course turned off.

  4. There is a genuine work train, the track would be closed since men are working on the track, or on the walls, drains of overhead, and need the stores and equipment found on t

My subway tunnels are intentionally designed with low ceilings and tight tolerances, so the only motive power that would fit is the subway motors. I have a couple of very low MOW cars that could fit, but I don’t run them that way. The only MOW work that ever gets done below ground is when I MU together the two subway motors and pull the CMX car around for track cleaning.

I have definitely seen a movie on TV about the subway money train. There was also a very low grade horror movie called Midnight Meat Train that hinted at cannibalism. They might have been the same movie.

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Wow! That’s great stuff, LION. Thanks for your extensive keyboard (and mental) efforts. Who’d a thunk? Particularly among us country and small town boys.

Mr. B -

I just read that New York’s MTA is trying to address a four-fold increase in “subway surfing”. Apparently being driven by activity on social media platforms. I guess low ceilings might help to eliminate the “sport”. Then again, the creativity of heads otherwise filled with mush is limitless.

Attuvian1 John

Hi Bro. Elias,

Thank you for that wonderful run down of subway maintenance cars and locomotives. It was a very interesting read.

Cheers!!

Dave

Good morning

Got up early at 4:00 to do some bridge work before taking Judy back to work this morning. No! For you jokesters out there, I’m certainly not a dentist[(-D]

Have some framing and sheetrock to do, that was supposed to be delivered to the second floor yesterday. They’re having me turn fhe condo that got changed from a three bedroom, to a one bedroom, back into a two bedroom, with walls and doors. The leasing agent advised them it would bring more rent.

Was scrolling through the Forum before hitting the rack early last night, and was admiring the Bear’s trestle in the “Show Me” thread. Not being very familiar with Flickr, was pleasantly surprised

When clicking on the trestle photo, zooming in to get a better look at some fine craftmanship, these arrows popped up on the sides. Come to find out, all his pictures and Beartoons from all these years we’re all there. Gotta say it was fun recapping all the memories, as there was less than a handful of them not remembered.

Went all the way back and seen the one where he crashed his plane into a tree, and said he wasn’t paying attention while flying by admiring my windows on the model being built[(-D] Made me laugh all over again, along with the one with the sign at the shooting gallery in Memphis, that said you’re not allowed to shoot the wildebeest[(-D]

Sometimes one takes a look around and appreciates good friends that the Forum brings through the years here[:)]

Have a good relaxing Sunday gentleman.

TF

Good morning, everyone. Donut day!

I found some bad news this morning. Wednesday and Thursday we are getting snow again. I’m ready for sun and warm weather.

We’re heading out the door – I’ll check in later and catch up on all the news.

Good afternoon Diners. A coffee on the go please, Brunhilda.

A lot going on around the house, so cannot stop.

For those of you wanting to build your own train, try wood. A ‘few’ coffee stirrers would do it. [:D]

Palma to Soller wooden train arriving at Palma, Majorca.

SAM_1104 by David Harrison, on Flickr

David

We have been receiving bad weather warnings for Monday and Tuesday. Farmers in the area are preparing for ‘The Lambing Storm’. It happens every March.

David

The World Is A Beautiful Place

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

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Good morning everyone. I hope we are all doing well.

Yesterday I left the front door open just a little while I was working outside. I think about 50 flies got into the house! It took us forever to kill them all.

I think there are still two or three of the most elusive and devious of them left.

-Kevin