Just Wait for the Train to Pass...

Fox News is reporting that 5 people were killed and two injured in a van that was hit by a BNSF freight in Granada, Colorado today (Granada is about 170 miles southeast of Denver). Nobody on the train was injured. Just happened today, so no info on whether it was an unprotected grade crossing, horn/lights etc. People just don’t get it, folks. It’s easy to chalk this up to a weeding of the gene pool, but it’s a senseless tragedy nonetheless. A tragedy for the train crew also as they will live it for the rest of their lives. My six-year-old son knows the importance of “look, listen and live.” Why don’t adults?

Ross R.

1 Moron, 6 extra victims…

If it was just the driver who ran the crossing…but no, this had to roll the dice with 6 passengers and no thought whatsoever for their lives, thats the definition of Moron.

World is in a hurry.

Topic is beaten to death round here…

…aint that the truth.[xx(]

…Way too much of a hurry…!

[?]Anyone know how many grade crossing fatality incidents there are a year in the U.S.?

According to the Department of Transportation website, the Bureau of Transportation Safety says:

“There were 3,045 collisions between trains and highway users in 2004, of which 319 involved at least one fatality. These 319 fatal accidents resulted in 368 fatalities, 41 percent of the 896 rail-related fatalities in 2004”

Wow, 1+ a day…and that doesn’t include the pedestrian vs train fatality incidents. I wonder if it’s about the same in Europe.

Prowers CR 22.5 is 2 miles WEST of Granada… News reports keep saying 2 miles east (Had one newscaster put it 2 miles east of Holly which would be Kansas)

CR 22.5 is in between Granada and Grote (Hwy Dept calls it “Carlton”) on the old Koen station grounds. two crossbucks protecting a little used dirt road connecting two dirt roads that parallel the old ATSF northern transcon. Road on the south side is lined with big elm trees planted as a windbreak during the dustbowl era that go west for a mile. Southeast quadrant of crossing is a farm compound owned by Grasmicks who own all of the local onion fields for miles in any direction. Visibility fair to good (no leaves on the trees yet)…

Amtrak # 3 would have been through there 3 hours earlier.

4 of the fatalities were kids, two more are in serious condition (not good)

Update: only two were teenagers…sadly there are now six dead and the driver may have been underage, they were not locals and were in the process of moving.

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I have nothing good to say about people who disregard active signals and get hit, and we all know to stop, look, and listen, as well as always expect a train. But let’s take a look at the other side of the issue.

I cross a CSX line twice a day - in the morning on the way to work, and in the afternoon, on my way home. This is a crossing with lights and gates.

I know that there are usually at least two northbound and two southbound through freights each day at that crossing. There are also two locals that may use it, and if they do, they will account for two visits. And you may see an odd reroute from time to time. So, on average, you can probably expect to see six or so trains there every 24 hours.

The usual timing of trains through this particular town puts me in close proximity to trains both in the morning and afternoon. I hear them on the radio getting orders, reporting block stations, and hitting a nearby defect detector. Very often they are within a very few miles of the crossing when I go over it. If I have time, I’ll sometimes hang around to watch them pass, although many’s the time that I’ve heard the defect detector within 10 minutes of my clearing the crossing.

BUT I HAVEN’T SEE A TRAIN THERE IN BETTER THAN THREE WEEKS! AND I’M LOOKING!

For that matter I’ve only been held up by a train there about three times in the past year.

Given my observations, John Q asks, “I rarely / never see any traffic on the line - why should I expect some today?”

As rail buffs and railroaders, we are obviously sensitive to trains. But I’d bet that most of you would be startled if the traffic light in front of the fire station turned red in your face, since you rarely see it.

I’m not justifying these people, just looking at their behavior from a slightly different angle.

Can’t speak for Europe mainland (those strange beings across the English Channel), but In Great Britain we have much less street running and more fully gated crossings, so many fewer accidents. Still have our “Darwin award” candidates though, same as every other country.

Just saw on CNN that 5 people died and the only survivor was the 15 year old driver, the others that died were immirgrant workers

Probably illegals running from the INS [:)]

(1) Not funny SPBED
(2) Migrant workers with Green Cards
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3709165

Think we’ll put you, the yellow press and the accident lawyers all in time-out.

Yea, that’s a pretty [censored] up thing to say. But considering the source it’s par for the course.[V]

SPBED…we should say that about you if that ever happens to you. How disrespectful to the dead!