Last Day: 10 x 12 Layout Contest: We need your vote: Close race.

No-one suggested otherwise. But you made a statement - “They were all early diesel or Steam layouts” - which is wrong. That undermines the value of your opinion considerably, as it’s based on a false premise.

As for your short posting history, it’s an unfortunate fact of forum life that established posters tend to view newbies who appear to be bent on being confrontational, as you do, with suspicion.

Cheers,

Mark.

The envelopes, please!

First, top layouts by scale:

  • N scale - Altoona and Johnstown
  • HO scale - Kinesube Utsube-sen (see disclaimer below)
  • G gauge - Borracho Traction Company

And now (ruffles and flourishes) - The Top Three!

  1. Kinesube Utsube-sen - a zen-like simplicity of plan, combined with fidelity to a prototype that features interesting operation. (I’m sure that modeling Japanese prototype, a ride on this layout’s prototype in 1973 and a personal liking for 762mm gauge didn’t bias my thinking - much.)
  2. Borracho Traction Company - could be transplanted with little variation to a certain city in Kyushu in the late 1950s.
  3. Altoona and Johnstown - who can resist THE Horseshoe Curve - complete with visitors’ center and funicular. Could be backdated to steam (turntable at Altoona) or be equally at home with CR or NS.

Congratulations to all of the entrants - and now I’m sorry I didn’t think of the Six Companies until after the deadline had passed (and secretly happy that Chip didn’t take my 1:1 scale non-entry seriously!)

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

Score by scale:

N - Snover and Port Fuller Railroad Company

HO - Kinesube Utsube Line

G - Borracho Traction Company

Overall:

  1. Kinesube Utsube Line

  2. Snover and Port Fuller Railroad Company

  3. Progressive Rail

I really liked the Kinesube Utsube line. As another poster said it is elegant and where less is more.

I found it difficult to make a choice, because I think all of the entries have merit, but I finally settled for these.

Overall Favourites (in no particular order)

Nr.1 Borracho Traction

Nr.2 Snover and Port Fuller Railroad

Nr.3 Lower Susquehanna Works

Individual Scales

N scale: Snover and Port Fuller Railroad

HO scale: Progressive Rail - if I wanted to keep the room usable for other purposes, this would the one!
Alternate HO scale: Big Fork and Dielh - if the room was all mine, I’d go with this.

G scale: Borracho Traction

Anyway, thanks to all the other contestants, and especially to Chip for doing the hard yards. Good luck to all in the judging!

Cheers,

Mark.

My apologies then. I made a mistake with the assumption by looking at two or three designs that were steam as them all being steam era. I really didnt like the designs personally but its just my little opinion and nothing special

The ones I liked are

1st place-#3 Buffalo and Susquehanna

2nd place- #7 Philadelphia and erie

3rd place- #2 Lower Susquehanna

I do not model “N”, and do not feel I know enough of the limits of radii, etc. to make an informed decision.

I like all of these, as they all seem to have continuous running (with one small glitch on the Buffalo and susquehanna) and I still feel that continuous running is important on a layout.

My vote goes to the HO Buffalo and Susquehanna - nice trackwork geometry and flow… very realistic IMO. Would make a very nice layout for the space.

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SL:

That’s fine. Layout design is usually a matter of personal taste above all. I’m sure we will have more contests of this type in the future. Why not enter something in the next one?

(As for steam era, I think we should all make a distinction between the often-seen transition era and the pure, glorious era of smoky blissful paradise before the diseasels appeared. That of course is only my own little opinion.)

I like several of the layouts, but in each scale:

  • Altoona and Johnstown (N)
  • Progressive Rail (HO)
  • Borracho Traction Company (G)

As far as picking the winners, I like:

  1. Borracho Traction Company
  2. Progressive Rail
  3. Kintetsu Utsube Line

I enjoyed reading the descriptions of these layouts as well as the creativity displayed here–a narrow gauge, industrial, electrified line in Japan, a three level switching layout, a multi-level blast furnace layout, a G-scale shelf layout–I would never have thought of any of these.

Well done, everyone; well done, SpaceMouse.

(For all you Star Wars Fans out there)

:: Darth Vader to Captain Needa as he “chokes” the life out of him ::

:: “Apology accepted Captain Needa” ::

Folks:

Oops, I slipped and I

BUMPed

the layout.

N: Altoona & Johnstown

HO: Progressive Rail

G: Borracho Traction Co.

Overall

  1. Progressive Rail

  2. Buffalo & Susquehanna

  3. Altoona & Johnstown

N: Altoona & Johnstown - Being from the Northeast I have to go for the one that has a Horseshoe Curve layout

HO: Buffalo & Susquehanna

G: Barracho Traction Co.

Top Three:

  1. Barracho Traction Co. - I need to put this first because unlike the others this actually made me consider changing scale and start building

  2. Buffalo & Susquehanna

  3. Kintetsu Utsube Line - Like many said it has great lines and has some great curves. Plus you got to love a layout that you cannot pronounce. But then again some might find Susquehanna hard to pronounce.

Chris

Lancaster, CA

Ok, I don’t know where my last post from day one went, but comments first:
Appalachian Central - while it follows its theme and design criteria it seems extremely simple for an n-scale 10x12. The center parts of the L (where the coal mine is) is going to be hard to reach for operation & repair. The town at the top is a way cool design.
Altoona & Johnson - I would have used one of the “blobs” for horseshoe curve proper. Railroad car manufacturer is a way cool industry for a MR. I know this scenery from riding through this on Amtrak.
Snover & Port Fuller - DQ for being too large HOWEVER, it certainly looks like this is HO scale. The turnouts are almost 9" long, the track centers on parallel track is 2". I believe if this was done using 6.25" long #6 turnouts, and making the parallel track on 1.25" centers, reduce the radius of the curves to 15" or so and it would easily fit into the given space. Why is the staging yard double ended on a point-to-point operating scheme? Seems a lot more could be fit with stub ended yards. Maybe make one run around for use when making up the trains before the operating session.
Southern Railways - Whithout some more info on scenery it is just a rail fanning twisted figure-8. Staging is only accessible from one direction as there is no reversing loop or wye. Mighty tight squeeze between the staging and both blobs.
West Virginia Southern - I see no helper cut off or staging tracks for helper locomotives. I think I would increase the grade a 2% for a model RR isn’t much. Duck under design. Intersting angles on the benchwork and track on the benchwork.
River Valley - I like the disguised figure-8 contained in this plan. I like the “working” interchange. Too bad it doesn’t st

N scale: # 3 Snover & Port Fuller

Ho scale: # 5 Kintetsu Utsube

Over-all top vote: #3 Snover & Port Fuller

Interesting comments TZ.

Took about three hours of analysis time to come up with just those few!

This is mainly to bump the contest vote back up!

The Old Dog isn’t ready to vote yet

But if anybody wants some additional information on the Philadelphia & Erie, here are some interesting links. Please note that submission is NOT mine. But the Old Mutt finds that region interesting.

http://historical.maptech.com/quad.cfm?quadname=Corry&state=PA&series=15

http://historical.maptech.com/quad.cfm?quadname=Youngsville&state=PA&series=15

http://historical.maptech.com/quad.cfm?quadname=Warren&state=PA&series=15

http://kc.pennsyrr.com/docs/downloads/ett_5404_northern.pdf

http://kc.pennsyrr.com/docs/downloads/ett_5504_conemaugh.pdf

http://www.velocity.net/~geshick/prr/corry.htm

http://www.velocity.net/~geshick/prr/erie.htm

http://www.velocity.net/~geshick/prr/prrmain.htm

http://kc.pennsyrr.com/maps/images/maps_1920/allegheny_and_buffalo.jpg

Have fun

LOL! I can pronounce it - badly! The lady who teaches me Japanese pulls some great faces when I mangle words… [:D]

You’re not wrong - I wouldn’t attempt it!

All the best,

Mark.